Originally Posted by RyanQ

I am not good with words and of course don't have enough money to buy a LFA, that included sit in and drive it. I feel I have no right to make any judgement or claim about it. I bet anyone can find a right arguments to make a claim about a car (or his/her car) that it is better than the other car(LFA) that he/she can only see from a far, dream of it, or touch it by hand. Once one own it, then he/she has a right to make a claim about it and to make a comparison between it and another car. I only know that:
compared to other cars at the same price-range (200k-500k), LFA is not sound like a bad deal.
compared to other cars at lower price range <80k: it's like making a comparison between a 1k$-custom-design piece of clothes with a 200$-mass-produced brand-name one

Originally Posted by STIG

I was really into 0 to 60 when I was in high school. I really thought 0 to 60 was everything about the car. Some people never really grew out of it. Luckily, I learned a thing or 2 about driving pleasures, and kinda grew out of "HEY MY HONDA WITH NOS DOES 0 to 60 IN ONE SECOND YO!!"phase. I guess 335i is like a new honda civic these days? I see these posts about 335 with juice boxes running 0 to 60 in a few nano seconds.

And also, Casio atomic watches can keep more accurate time than Rolex. I am too poor to have any expensive amazing watches, but if you have one, you probably should throw away and replace with one of those Casio watches.

I admire BMW, but I am a huge Toyota fan deep down. I grew up with Toyotas and they have been integral part of my life. I have been kinda sad for Toyota because they had no exciting cars. You can argue that they had IS-F and I know it was an amazing car but I really didn't do much for me.
But this car changed it all. Granted that I probably will not be fortunate enough to own one of these amazing machine in any near future, I am really really REALLY excited for Toyota. I can see what this car can do for the future Toyota's line up. May be Toyota engineers will learn a few things and will apply it to next generation IS-F, which I can def benefit from.

Finally, I love it when a car company create a astonishing machine which makes a lot of fanbois jealous. All these e thuggers come out and say a lot of things about this amazing piece of art which they can never be able to afford while living in their moms' apartments.

Job well done Toyota. Bravo!

Originally Posted by RyanQ

I am not good with words and of course don't have enough money to buy a LFA, that included sit in and drive it. I feel I have no right to make any judgement or claim about it. I bet anyone can find a right arguments to make a claim about a car (or his/her car) that it is better than the other car(LFA) that he/she can only see from a far, dream of it, or touch it by hand. Once one own it, then he/she has a right to make a claim about it and to make a comparison between it and another car. I only know that:
compared to other cars at the same price-range (200k-500k), LFA is not sound like a bad deal.
compared to other cars at lower price range <80k: it's like making a comparison between a 1k$-custom-design piece of clothes with a 200$-mass-produced brand-name one

Originally Posted by S2000toIS350

RyanQ

I believe you have things completely correct.

Most folks are not in the income range for this thing.

Most folks also do not routinely make choices between luxury goods like your perfect clothing example.

The LFA buyer has the resources and makes choices about which aspects of the product/service that are of value to them.

The exclusivity of the LFA, the resources behind creating it both the the development and production ends, the personalization of the car that will be delivered and then the expectation of and easy to live with Lexus dealership network all work together to drive the consumer's choice.

1SICKLEX

I would also speak to the S2000 point. I had one of these from 99 to 05 (when I went with the IS350). As my income has zipped upward, I have been looking for something that provided the chainsaw motor, driving thrill and ease of ownership that didn't give me a headache after driving an hour.

I expected that either the next get NSX would do that (wrong again) or the LFA would do be such a car.

My S2000 was white on red with a red carpet and the first LFA promoted was dead on to that.

The dash of the LFA starts with a central speed number and is rimmed by the tach. This is easy to see as an evolution from the S2000 design.

Look at the LFA motor and consider the redline being the same as the original S2000 with the V10 adding torque and of course a huge power increase over the Honda 4.

As for the driving experience, the LFA is a light as possible for what it is, tossable machine like the S2000. Toyota has gotten rid of the pain in the *** while stuck in traffic clutch pedal and added the luxo experience not found in the S2000.

Yes we give up the splendid vert aspect and the pricing is over 10X the easy to live with cost of an S2000 but for me, the LFA is a car that does come in part from Honda's best efforts.

Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

I can't wait for the dust to settle & seeing this car pegged against the competition.. I guess this car is ground breaking for a Japanese automaker, I'll give it that.. I mean, nothing else is ground breaking about it.. Carbon fiber body? See Mercedes SL65 AMG..Hell Mercedes can crown a number of cars in its line up as a "halo".. SLR, CLK black SLS etc. but their is no need as the product speaks for itself..

I'll let you guys continue as I would not want anyone to foam at the mouth & slit their wrists over my sentiments..

Originally Posted by malujerry

that was like a great pizza with bad delivery... still great pizza.

Originally Posted by DASHOCKER

I can't wait for the dust to settle & seeing this car pegged against the competition.. I guess this car is ground breaking for a Japanese automaker, I'll give it that.. I mean, nothing else is ground breaking about it.. Carbon fiber body? See Mercedes SL65 AMG..Hell Mercedes can crown a number of cars in its line up as a "halo".. SLR, CLK black SLS etc. but their is no need as the product speaks for itself..

I'll let you guys continue as I would not want anyone to foam at the mouth & slit their wrists over my sentiments..