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05-10-10 | 01:48 PM

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I think I'd take 4 GT-R's in lieu of 1 LF-A, but damn the LF-A engine sound sweet.

But you can't drive all 4 GT-Rs at once

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05-10-10 | 01:55 PM

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Also seems they used a less than ideal transmission for the car. They remarked the GTR's tranny was much better. Single-clutch sequentials will go the way of the dinosaur soon.

Well the Lexus engineers stated they could have went with it but liked the more engaging feel they chose. They wanted shifts to actually not be smooth but feel like an "event" which matches the soundtrack of the V-10.

I have to say they achieved this in riding in the car.

I'm not going to say which way is better, clearly dual clutch is more advanced but might have also been heavier.

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05-10-10 | 02:09 PM

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Why even compare the two?

They are both great cars in their own right but are apples and oranges.

A Ferrari whatever and an LFA would be a valid comparison.

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05-10-10 | 02:47 PM

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that is true, we havent seen any comparisons between the LFA and its european rivals. maybe they are afraid who will win

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05-10-10 | 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Autobacs

Why even compare the two?

They are both great cars in their own right but are apples and oranges.

A Ferrari whatever and an LFA would be a valid comparison.

It ain't the first...

It won't be the LAST.

If you don't know why, then just continue to read ALL of the upcoming articles and head to head comparos.

Nice vid by the way!

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05-10-10 | 03:27 PM

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that is true, we havent seen any comparisons between the LFA and its european rivals. maybe they are afraid who will win

It's like Pacquiao avoiding Mayweather lol. Ferrari has been waiting

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05-10-10 | 03:35 PM

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Although we already know who will win, it's all theoretical bench racing. During acceleration testing of the Lexus, we uncover an ugly truth about the LFA's long gestation period. Its sequential manual gearbox (SMG) feels years behind the dual clutch boxes like the GT-R.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz0nZK6ptDF

They might want to address this...

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05-10-10 | 04:41 PM

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430hp on the dyno? This car has a parasitic drivetrain loss of 122hp...?

It has nothing to do with 'parastic drivetrain loss'. A dyno may be calibrated differently than the 'norm' for its type. And some dyno's typically read lower than other types (and vice-versa).

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05-10-10 | 05:41 PM

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I would like one of each

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05-10-10 | 06:14 PM

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430hp on the dyno? This car has a parasitic drivetrain loss of 122hp...?

i thought i was the only one that caught that.

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05-10-10 | 06:31 PM

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It ain't the first...

It won't be the LAST.

If you don't know why, then just continue to read ALL of the upcoming articles and head to head comparos.

Nice vid by the way!

I'm telling you, that image makes me just plain giddy. To see two Japanese hypercars duking it out.

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05-10-10 | 06:39 PM

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Please somebody do a super car shootout

Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano
Ferrari 458 Italia
Porsche 911 Turbo
Porsche 911 GT3
Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera
Audi R8 5.2 Quattro
Nissan GT-R
Lexus LF-A
Mercedes-Benz SLS
Aston Martin DBS
Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
McLaren MP4-12C

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05-10-10 | 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Autobacs

Why even compare the two?

They are both great cars in their own right but are apples and oranges.

A Ferrari whatever and an LFA would be a valid comparison.

+1. This kind of apple-to-orange comparison has got to stop. Also stop drag racing and put them on a real race track already.

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05-10-10 | 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by speedflex

I'm telling you, that image makes me just plain giddy. To see two Japanese hypercars duking it out.

You know... That picture is actually more important than M/T realizes!

A high-res shot like this captioning:

"Japan Rising!"

or...

"Revenge of Japan!"

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05-10-10 | 06:59 PM

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Straight light drag race comparos are soooooooo lame. Seriously, there is so much more to a car than just this number.

What about the viceral quality a car gives you? I'm sure the LFA has the GT-R beat in this department. I would like to have honest journalists do back to back comparisons while spending some serious seat time in both. That would be much more interesting.

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