HID High Beams
10-20-04, 12:06 PM
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HID High Beams
Okay so I'm a bit confused on adding even more HID's to my GS. I have the stock HID low beams but want to make my high beams HID as well. Is this possible and will it still retain the "high beam" if I convert them to HID?
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10-20-04, 12:49 PM
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it's possible, but the follow things to think about
1) if you have DRL (day time driving light), then it won't work during the day coz' the power isn't enough. i am not sure if that will even damage the hid kits
2) hid kits need time to ignite, warm up, and get bright. the purpose of high beam is to shine high quickly in most cases. so putting hid totally defeat the purpose of high beam imho
1) if you have DRL (day time driving light), then it won't work during the day coz' the power isn't enough. i am not sure if that will even damage the hid kits
2) hid kits need time to ignite, warm up, and get bright. the purpose of high beam is to shine high quickly in most cases. so putting hid totally defeat the purpose of high beam imho
10-20-04, 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by rominl
2) hid kits need time to ignite, warm up, and get bright. the purpose of high beam is to shine high quickly in most cases. so putting hid totally defeat the purpose of high beam imho
2) hid kits need time to ignite, warm up, and get bright. the purpose of high beam is to shine high quickly in most cases. so putting hid totally defeat the purpose of high beam imho
If you really want to do it, PM GammaLex as he retrofitted HID projectors into his highs. The only way I can see doing this is to change the way the lights work. You'd have to retrofit BiXenon projectors into the highs and have them on in low mode all the time. This means you would have lows on (as usual) and BiXenon high beams on with the lows (in low mode). When you flash, the shield in the Bixenon will move to allow more direct light working as highs. In this scenario, the HIDs are already on so the warm up time is not there.
10-20-04, 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Neo
I thought about doing this awhile back but this is partly why I did not do it. To be more specific, I don't think HIDs defeat the purpose of having highs. It defeats one of the purpose, which is flashing someone. Because of the ignite and warm up time, you can't really flash someone quickly.
If you really want to do it, PM GammaLex as he retrofitted HID projectors into his highs. The only way I can see doing this is to change the way the lights work. You'd have to retrofit BiXenon projectors into the highs and have them on in low mode all the time. This means you would have lows on (as usual) and BiXenon high beams on with the lows (in low mode). When you flash, the shield in the Bixenon will move to allow more direct light working as highs. In this scenario, the HIDs are already on so the warm up time is not there.
I thought about doing this awhile back but this is partly why I did not do it. To be more specific, I don't think HIDs defeat the purpose of having highs. It defeats one of the purpose, which is flashing someone. Because of the ignite and warm up time, you can't really flash someone quickly.
If you really want to do it, PM GammaLex as he retrofitted HID projectors into his highs. The only way I can see doing this is to change the way the lights work. You'd have to retrofit BiXenon projectors into the highs and have them on in low mode all the time. This means you would have lows on (as usual) and BiXenon high beams on with the lows (in low mode). When you flash, the shield in the Bixenon will move to allow more direct light working as highs. In this scenario, the HIDs are already on so the warm up time is not there.
10-20-04, 01:58 PM
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Both of your answers are exactly what I was looking for. I have a 98 Gs400 and while the idea of both high and low beam HID's sounds good to me I don't really want to retrofit anything. Guess I'm just going to have to buy some silverstars and use those. Thanks for the help.
10-23-04, 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by GRAND_LS 4
Land Crusiers and LX470's both come with HID high beams.... man.. forget about vision after someone shines them in your rearview mirrors.
Land Crusiers and LX470's both come with HID high beams.... man.. forget about vision after someone shines them in your rearview mirrors.
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10-23-04, 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by GammaLex
Thats weird they dont even have HID low beams. Where did you hear this from?
Thats weird they dont even have HID low beams. Where did you hear this from?
10-23-04, 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by GRAND_LS 4
I know they dont have low beam HID's. I didnt hear this anywhere... my family/friends have loads of Land Crusiers. Not US spec though... They are in the middle east. They are VXR models (top trim level is called VXR).
I know they dont have low beam HID's. I didnt hear this anywhere... my family/friends have loads of Land Crusiers. Not US spec though... They are in the middle east. They are VXR models (top trim level is called VXR).
10-23-04, 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by GRAND_LS 4
I know they dont have low beam HID's. I didnt hear this anywhere... my family/friends have loads of Land Crusiers. Not US spec though... They are in the middle east. They are VXR models (top trim level is called VXR).
I know they dont have low beam HID's. I didnt hear this anywhere... my family/friends have loads of Land Crusiers. Not US spec though... They are in the middle east. They are VXR models (top trim level is called VXR).
Middle East? Me too
Hows Ramadan treating u ? I lost 5 lbs of muscle already 
10-24-04, 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by GRAND_LS 4
Thats what i was thinking, ask toyota not me. But when someone flashes you to clear the fast lane... it feels like a big powerful camera flash
Thats what i was thinking, ask toyota not me. But when someone flashes you to clear the fast lane... it feels like a big powerful camera flash
10-24-04, 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by GammaLex
Middle East? Me too Hows Ramadan treating u ? I lost 5 lbs of muscle already
Middle East? Me too
Hows Ramadan treating u ? I lost 5 lbs of muscle already
It was VERY painful...I was up at 7am, and stayed out in the park until 5PM. Sunset here is at 7:00Pm.
I dont know if i lost any weight, because i pig out at night
10-24-04, 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by Neo
That is a weird thing that Toyota did. I have not seen the headlights of the two SUVs but how do you flash HIDs? When I turn on my headlights and the ballast powers up the bulbs, it takes a few seconds to get bright. If the HIDs on these SUVS do the same (and I can't see how they cannot), flashing would not be very effective. Now, powering up the HIDs and shining it one someone would be awfully bright.
That is a weird thing that Toyota did. I have not seen the headlights of the two SUVs but how do you flash HIDs? When I turn on my headlights and the ballast powers up the bulbs, it takes a few seconds to get bright. If the HIDs on these SUVS do the same (and I can't see how they cannot), flashing would not be very effective. Now, powering up the HIDs and shining it one someone would be awfully bright.
As to why Toyota did that, I have no idea, but in the desert, and rural area's, you don¡¦t really miss the sun.
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10-24-04, 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by GRAND_LS 4
[BThe other thing is, we all know HID's light up instantly, forget about the warm up cycle. I'm talking about actual power up time... its faster then regular lights, so it lights up instantly...plus if you pay attention VERY carefully, you will notice HID"s are very powerful the first split second they are first fired, then they dim and warm up. I guess you'de have to be flashed a few times to know what I mean
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[BThe other thing is, we all know HID's light up instantly, forget about the warm up cycle. I'm talking about actual power up time... its faster then regular lights, so it lights up instantly...plus if you pay attention VERY carefully, you will notice HID"s are very powerful the first split second they are first fired, then they dim and warm up. I guess you'de have to be flashed a few times to know what I mean
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Still, what seems to be optimal or not may have nothing to do with what thresholds the HID parts can have. They may do just fine.