LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000) Discussion topics related to the 1990 - 2000 Lexus LS400

No fluid to rears. Fronts sticking

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-28-24, 07:33 AM
  #1  
angelo217
Driver
Thread Starter
 
angelo217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 69
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default No fluid to rears. Fronts sticking

Trying to save myself an expensive trip to the mechanic.

Front brakes stick especially after driving more than 5-10 minutes, at times they will grab so hard the car will barely move. They will release after an extended period of time though. 5-30 minutes depending on how stuck they were.

cannot get fluid to rear brakes, yes I’ve used a vacuum bleeder.

Front has new pads new rotors and new driver side caliper.

i do not have any brake lights on the dash. So im assuming the abs module and pump is fine.

Ive tried fiddling with that bleeder on the abs pump I believe it is and wasn’t able to get anything out of it.

took a peep into the abs module. The fluid appears to be darker than the rest of my fluid. Indicating it hasn’t cycled through any new fluid in a long time.

a trusted mechanic here said it is likely my ABS pump although it doesn’t make sense as a light should pop up regardless if any of those are bad.

maybe a stuck valve that needs to be freed up?

what steps should I take to get fluid to these rear brakes?

yes im getting fluid out of the master directly to the rear line. The master looks newer as well.

booster not sure havnt tested it.

brake pedal after starting car is soft at first, then gradually becomes firm as the brakes begin to stick.
Old 01-29-24, 04:00 PM
  #2  
timmy0tool
Moderator
iTrader: (7)
 
timmy0tool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: 714/949, SoCal
Posts: 6,988
Received 426 Likes on 380 Posts
Default

what year is your car?
Old 01-29-24, 06:41 PM
  #3  
angelo217
Driver
Thread Starter
 
angelo217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 69
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by timmy0tool
what year is your car?
it’s a 1991
Old 01-31-24, 10:19 AM
  #4  
Losiracer2
Racer
 
Losiracer2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 1,278
Received 210 Likes on 171 Posts
Default

Probably a bad master cylinder. My parents 01' Sienna had a MC failure and it would almost lock up both front brakes after a short drive and wouldn't release after a stop.
Old 01-31-24, 10:23 AM
  #5  
angelo217
Driver
Thread Starter
 
angelo217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 69
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Losiracer2
Probably a bad master cylinder. My parents 01' Sienna had a MC failure and it would almost lock up both front brakes after a short drive and wouldn't release after a stop.
master should be okay it does look to be on the newer side. I’m getting fluid out of the master to the rear lines. Fluid was very dirty indicating no flow. Cracked line to rear brakes off of the proportioning valve and it was bone dry!! Does anyone know how I can reseat the valve properly, or how I would go about this, because man I can’t find a porp valve anywhere online. Nor are there any parts cars in my area let alone state lol.
Old 01-31-24, 10:52 AM
  #6  
LeX2K
Lexus Fanatic
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 20,205
Received 2,933 Likes on 2,470 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by angelo217
Cracked line to rear brakes off of the proportioning valve and it was bone dry!! Does anyone know how I can reseat the valve properly,
What do you mean by this?
Old 01-31-24, 11:00 AM
  #7  
angelo217
Driver
Thread Starter
 
angelo217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 69
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by LeX2K
What do you mean by this?
the valve allowing fluid to both ends of the car. Like for example it’s currently blocking off fluid to the rears
Old 01-31-24, 11:17 AM
  #8  
LeX2K
Lexus Fanatic
 
LeX2K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Alberta
Posts: 20,205
Received 2,933 Likes on 2,470 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by angelo217
the valve allowing fluid to both ends of the car. Like for example it’s currently blocking off fluid to the rears
Ah I see, valve is seized up internally. Could try removing and soaking in brake fluid for awhile or possibly automatic transmission fluid since ATF is loaded with detergent. If rusty inside then soak it in Evapo-Rust.

Might be available here
https://www.amayama.com/en/part/toyota/4719050030
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
m1tk4
RX - 1st Gen (1999-2003)
20
05-10-19 10:50 PM
lexixel
SC430 - 2nd Gen (2001-2010)
7
06-18-16 11:24 AM
lexus-is2
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
13
06-05-14 11:13 AM
rwheelz
Suspension and Brakes
0
05-13-13 03:16 PM
MrGetRT
Suspension and Brakes
6
05-05-13 09:31 AM



Quick Reply: No fluid to rears. Fronts sticking



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:45 AM.