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My LS on 20" Lowenhart LDR

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Old 02-15-05, 07:14 AM
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sonbum1, thanks for the info
Old 02-15-05, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by GRAND_LS 4
can someone lower that LS in photoshop, i bet it would look hot.
Can anyone please?
Old 02-15-05, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sonbum1
If you stay with the 20" even 19" you ought to do a "big" break upgrade, just cause the added weight of the wheels effects the stopping power.

not really, all Amistad 2-pc wheels 19" (including Type F) weights about 28lbs including the box and accessories. According to Rominl, stock 17" is about the same weight

We sold all Type F in Chrome (in the US and Japan); therefore, Khoa has to wait till mid-March I cannot wait to see it either

BTW I think 20" will look better on LS430 than on LS400, Khoa, great choice
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The added weight alters the rebound and compression characteristics of the suspension. I noticed the weight change immediately on mine. Braking and accelleration are different too.

The stock 16's for the '97 and '98 come in at 21 pounds give take a few ounces. The Michelin MX4V mounted on the wheel along with center cap comes in at 48 some odd pounds. The LSportline M4 one pieces with tire weighs in at 52 pounds. The BFG 245/40-18 TA-KDW-2 is 26.28 pounds.

If you opt for a big brake upgrade, the stock calipers with pads loaded weigh in at 9#'s not accounting for the fluid. With a larger rotor and 6 pot combo, you will easily be adding weight. The front is going be obviously different.
Old 02-15-05, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RA40
The added weight alters the rebound and compression characteristics of the suspension. I noticed the weight change immediately on mine. Braking and accelleration are different too.

The stock 16's for the '97 and '98 come in at 21 pounds give take a few ounces. The Michelin MX4V mounted on the wheel along with center cap comes in at 48 some odd pounds. The LSportline M4 one pieces with tire weighs in at 52 pounds. The BFG 245/40-18 TA-KDW-2 is 26.28 pounds.

If you opt for a big brake upgrade, the stock calipers with pads loaded weigh in at 9#'s not accounting for the fluid. With a larger rotor and 6 pot combo, you will easily be adding weight. The front is going be obviously different.
We have one of the best breaks in the industry.... esp back in 95. I think the four piston calipers can take it, and then some.
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Originally Posted by xmystikx
DUDE.. SLAM IT, AND YOU'RE DONE.. DONT GO SMALLER!!!!
Agreed, the 95-00 Celsior actually "appears" to be longer than the 01+ (more upright, traditional "3box" design). I think you are judging the car based on its stock ride height. I thought Stefwilli's Celsior looked quite horrid with 20s and no lowering as well, but with the drop everything came together nicely. I think you should lower it and then decide (before going to a smaller wheel).

IMHO the 01+ Celsior can get away with 19s a little better than the 95-00. Also kudos to your for getting that wheel in brushed (would have been too much chrome!!)
Old 02-15-05, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by khoatrn
Hi, I have staggered wheel setup on my car with Front-20x8.5 and Rear-20x10. For tires, 245/35/20 in the front and 255/35/20 in the rear. Since I didn’t drop my car, I didn’t notice any rubbing at all and I didn’t have to roll the fenders either. In addition, I think 19s will look better on LS ….20s is just too big and it makes the car look like a SUV. In my opinion, LS looks nice due to its long body (just like the old model of Honda Accord LS or EX) and in keeping it low/close to the ground will make the body even longer. Good luck Lpham_3.
I have a couple of buddies with 19" on their 3 series and it looks like a perfect fit, I think that 19" on the LS will look small. do u think that u can fit bigger tires on there? maybe 275/40? I just like more rubber cuz there are lots of potholes in LA due to all them damn SUVs rolling around.
Old 02-15-05, 05:26 PM
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Lpham_3, the best sources that you can check on the tire fitment applications would be tirerack.com, superbuytires.com, or discounttiredirect.com. Also, check out the following link, I think it's quite helpful. Good luck

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...foTireMath.jsp
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Originally Posted by GRAND_LS 4
can someone lower that LS in photoshop, i bet it would look hot.
Here's my LS on 20's slammed.



The rims look good bro! You don't need to go smaller!
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Mr. Lexo, those front lights are nice, where did u get them from and how much?
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Originally Posted by GRAND_LS 4
We have one of the best breaks in the industry.... esp back in 95. I think the four piston calipers can take it, and then some.
The brakes on ours are very good indeed. It does alter the braking characteristics with this added rotational mass. While I have not performed any braking tests before and after, the pedal feel/effort to stop does seem longer with more effort. Slowing this mass will generate more heat to dissipate. Along with this, it brings increased wear as the application of force to stop the car has also increased.

Obviously the LS is not a track car nor do most of us drive it such manner as to reach the limits. Within a certain percentage, the suspension and barkes have a built in tolerance. I suggest that those adding mods, be aware what this increased weight may have on the handling and braking performance of the car. I noticed it with mine.

YMMV of course.
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Rotational mass!!!! Thank you!!! that is what I was refering to in bringing up the addded weight. My friend put 19" on his GS from the 18" he had, even thogh he had supra TT brake upgrade there was a marked difference in his stopping.(distance/efffort) Ohhh.... by the way the cheapest "big" break upgrade is a supra TT conversion kit is about $900 next would be the Rod Millen, if they are still avil. about $1200
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Mr Lexo your car looks sweet, What is your ground clearance? Do you have enough space for a front lip, I think it would add a finishing touch, like a fedora (hat) to a zuit suit.
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Originally Posted by MRLEXO
Here's my LS on 20's slammed.



The rims look good bro! You don't need to go smaller!
I love monotone... great lookin ride
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Originally Posted by sonbum1
Rotational mass!!!! Thank you!!! that is what I was refering to in bringing up the addded weight. My friend put 19" on his GS from the 18" he had, even thogh he had supra TT brake upgrade there was a marked difference in his stopping.(distance/efffort) Ohhh.... by the way the cheapest "big" break upgrade is a supra TT conversion kit is about $900 next would be the Rod Millen, if they are still avil. about $1200
The Supra caliper and the LS caliper are almost identical in size and the rotors on the LS are only .25-.50" smaller than the Supra. As others have said, I think a more aggressive pad, upgraded fluid, and stainless steel lines would do it for a LS with the monoblock caliper


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