Tanabe DF210 springs discussions (The Mother thread)
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Ya, PureDrifter is right. I had the Tanabe's and Tokico HP and they worked awesome. It would be a pretty rare that the tire would hit the inner fender but with a softer kyb, I am sure it would have happened. The rear is not the problem, it's the front.
I had kyb's on another lowered car and they felt too close to stock for my taste...had about 4 sets of Tokico's on different cars and never a problem. Hp's are great, Illumina's might not be worth the money for a street car.
I had kyb's on another lowered car and they felt too close to stock for my taste...had about 4 sets of Tokico's on different cars and never a problem. Hp's are great, Illumina's might not be worth the money for a street car.
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Ya, PureDrifter is right. I had the Tanabe's and Tokico HP and they worked awesome. It would be a pretty rare that the tire would hit the inner fender but with a softer kyb, I am sure it would have happened. The rear is not the problem, it's the front.
I had kyb's on another lowered car and they felt too close to stock for my taste...had about 4 sets of Tokico's on different cars and never a problem. Hp's are great, Illumina's might not be worth the money for a street car.
I had kyb's on another lowered car and they felt too close to stock for my taste...had about 4 sets of Tokico's on different cars and never a problem. Hp's are great, Illumina's might not be worth the money for a street car.
Li, you can still get a 2 inch drop, if that is truly what you want, by getting the Eibach ProKit springs. They should work fine with your Kyb's. Just keep in mind, that the LS is a very heavy car, so after settling on the springs, your drop will probably be closer to 2.25 inches. You are also gonna have to change your tire size to a lower profile (less rubber) b/c you will rub at speeds above 65. If you ever notice, and I didnt until I dropped the car, the car itself lowers itself a little at speeds above 65. 2" drop with stock tire size will equal rubbing, I found out the hard way. Pure also said that you can use the Tanabe springs with the KYB's but be prepared to change out your shocks alot sooner than normal. With you being here on the east coast area, it will probably be wiser to run the KYB shock with either the H&R's (what I run personally), or the Eibach's. Just depends how low you wanna go, and just how much you wanna have to change the shocks. The Tanabe's in this area are most likely, not a good idea especially if you are looking for something that is relatively low maintenance.
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The car itself settles down, a little, on the chasis when you are traveling at speeds above 65 to improve aerodynamics. I didn't say that it settles 2 inches. The Eibach Prokit will drop your car 2inches, and by the time the chasis settles onto those springs (breakin period), your DROP will be a little over 2 inches. This does not include, the slight settlement of the car when traveling above 65. This is why I said, you will have to go with a lower profile tire if you go with a 2 inch drop.
My setup is as follows--
Before I was running:
225/60/16 tires (stock size for our first gens is 205/50/15 if I remember correct). I was already running a tire that was 1" (60 series over a 50 series) that was larger than stock.
Stock springs.
This setup worked fine. No rubbing,, looked like it was dropped and it wasnt.
After drop, could not turn wheel full to left/right, would rub at speeds above 65. This will be the same result for you with a 2" drop on the stock size tires.
This is a pic of my stock tires on a 1 inch drop. Sorry, didnt have one from direct on side. Look carefully and you can pretty much see that I am almost sitting on the tires. 1" tire too big + 1 inch drop = actual 2" drop result and rubbed.
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Now, am currently running 235/40/18 rims (still plenty of meat on the tires) with the KYB's and the H&R springs. No bottoming out (except with really hard dips,, not slowing down enough). 1 inch was plenty of drop for me b/c I wanted some meat on my tires; especially since I do not have time to play fix the bent rim. I have a 1 finger gap between my tires and fender now, minimal rub, and plenty of tire to protect the rim. Like I stated before, if you gonna go 2 or more inch drop here on the east coast, be prepared for ride quality not being so good and PLENTY of bottoming out. Here is my ride as she sits now,,
My setup is as follows--
Before I was running:
225/60/16 tires (stock size for our first gens is 205/50/15 if I remember correct). I was already running a tire that was 1" (60 series over a 50 series) that was larger than stock.
Stock springs.
This setup worked fine. No rubbing,, looked like it was dropped and it wasnt.
After drop, could not turn wheel full to left/right, would rub at speeds above 65. This will be the same result for you with a 2" drop on the stock size tires.
This is a pic of my stock tires on a 1 inch drop. Sorry, didnt have one from direct on side. Look carefully and you can pretty much see that I am almost sitting on the tires. 1" tire too big + 1 inch drop = actual 2" drop result and rubbed.
![](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/wheels-tires-and-brakes-forum/82656d1144354656-why-does-a-bigger-rim-raise-my-car-102_0498-medium-.jpg)
Now, am currently running 235/40/18 rims (still plenty of meat on the tires) with the KYB's and the H&R springs. No bottoming out (except with really hard dips,, not slowing down enough). 1 inch was plenty of drop for me b/c I wanted some meat on my tires; especially since I do not have time to play fix the bent rim. I have a 1 finger gap between my tires and fender now, minimal rub, and plenty of tire to protect the rim. Like I stated before, if you gonna go 2 or more inch drop here on the east coast, be prepared for ride quality not being so good and PLENTY of bottoming out. Here is my ride as she sits now,,
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No problem man,, 1 inch drop with stock tires will be fine unless you are like me and running the wrong size stockers anyway. LOL!!! If you have to correct stock size, 1 inch drop will be fine. 2 inch drop with stock tires will merit you having to buy new tires with a lower profile to avoid rubbing and such. Not to mention a 2 inch drop on our side of the world is gonna merit a really rough ride, especially with you being in NY and all.
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I have the KYB GR-2's and the Tanabe 210's on my 1998 Lexus. For 4 months now, I have been very satisfied with the ride quality and the lowering. For 2nd gen LS's, it lowered (after settling) about 1.5 in. all around. This is the perfect lowering hight for me, since it leaves room for speedbumps, doors don't scrape on the curb, and front bumper clears the parking space blocks.
I drive 40min each way to work, and my ride is still better than any other car I ride in, plus you get the improved handleing, breaking, and acceleration.
I recommend!
jerms
I drive 40min each way to work, and my ride is still better than any other car I ride in, plus you get the improved handleing, breaking, and acceleration.
I recommend!
jerms
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I've decided to get the tanabe/kyb combo.
Tanabe - because everything else doesn't seem like it would get me enough of a drop
KYB - because I want to save some of the ride quality
So, where is the best place (cheapest) to buy Tanabe DF210 springs and KYB shocks for a 98 LS?
Thanks
PS. I need a new battery, suggestions?
Tanabe - because everything else doesn't seem like it would get me enough of a drop
KYB - because I want to save some of the ride quality
So, where is the best place (cheapest) to buy Tanabe DF210 springs and KYB shocks for a 98 LS?
Thanks
PS. I need a new battery, suggestions?