LS-400 Top Speed? (The Mother Thread)
#136
I think top speed is one of those things you do once, just to see what it does and how it handles it. I've hit the hammer in every car I've ever owned. I think the LS was the furthest from it's actual VMAX because I didn't have the like 7 miles of dead empty straight road you need to truly hit the big numbers like I have with some of my other cars.
"top speed" is a pretty useless metric, it's nice for magazines, but nobody is going there. Nobody is really doing more than 150mph, even in Germany on the Autobahn. Unless you have a Bugatti or some turbo lambo\R8 with 1400 horsepower, those speeds probably won't be seen. Nobody is hitting 180mph or whatever in their sports car. So top speed is pretty un-important to me as well as a metric of a cars "stats".
75 as a VMAX? Hey, so it's your car, your license, your choices when driving it. But if you have such a powerful car, I would want to use it a bit. I never have gone super speed weaving like idiots do, but a pull on an on-ramp or various other fun back roads to enjoy the car is worthy.
As far as just normal cruising on the highway - I mean I hit 90 in my LS400 in a gap just the other day driving to the airport in normal traffic, most lanes were doing 70-80. I can't imagine driving on American highways and only seeing 75mph and keeping up with traffic in certain situations. People go fast on the highways if everyone is movin'. I cruised at 90-100 on I-15 for like 30 minutes with a group of 10-20 cars a few months back. Everyone, both lanes, all cruising at nearly triple digits. Granted, the speed limit on that highway was 80mph so it wasn't super excessive.
IMO I think the biggest thing to watch out for is differential in speed. I always hate when there is more than a 10-20% difference in speed between the lanes, it makes me super nervous. I'm worried someone is going to jump out or something stupid will happen. It's the speed differentials that are super dangerous. As long as you have a well taken care of car that's of quality, I don't get super sketched out by speed. Porsches I've driven mask the speed so well and have so much capability that your pace on the road is just incredible.
"top speed" is a pretty useless metric, it's nice for magazines, but nobody is going there. Nobody is really doing more than 150mph, even in Germany on the Autobahn. Unless you have a Bugatti or some turbo lambo\R8 with 1400 horsepower, those speeds probably won't be seen. Nobody is hitting 180mph or whatever in their sports car. So top speed is pretty un-important to me as well as a metric of a cars "stats".
I've never understood the fascination with top speed since it's useless and dangerous on public roads. A car I have on order has a top speed of 194 mph according to the manufacturer but I doubt that it will ever see more than the 75 mph speed limit of the Kansas Turnpike.
75 as a VMAX? Hey, so it's your car, your license, your choices when driving it. But if you have such a powerful car, I would want to use it a bit. I never have gone super speed weaving like idiots do, but a pull on an on-ramp or various other fun back roads to enjoy the car is worthy.
As far as just normal cruising on the highway - I mean I hit 90 in my LS400 in a gap just the other day driving to the airport in normal traffic, most lanes were doing 70-80. I can't imagine driving on American highways and only seeing 75mph and keeping up with traffic in certain situations. People go fast on the highways if everyone is movin'. I cruised at 90-100 on I-15 for like 30 minutes with a group of 10-20 cars a few months back. Everyone, both lanes, all cruising at nearly triple digits. Granted, the speed limit on that highway was 80mph so it wasn't super excessive.
IMO I think the biggest thing to watch out for is differential in speed. I always hate when there is more than a 10-20% difference in speed between the lanes, it makes me super nervous. I'm worried someone is going to jump out or something stupid will happen. It's the speed differentials that are super dangerous. As long as you have a well taken care of car that's of quality, I don't get super sketched out by speed. Porsches I've driven mask the speed so well and have so much capability that your pace on the road is just incredible.
Last edited by 400fanboy; 03-18-21 at 10:53 AM.
#138
Nobody should be hitting 100 mph + without knowing their vehicle's tire condition/inflation pressures, and they should definitely check all suspension components and fasteners, not to mention brake caliper bolts, etc. If your car has imbalances in the engine/torque converter, driveshaft, or wheels, you might find that things "smooth out" at high speeds, but actual forces go up with the square of the speed.
Roads in the U.S. have been deteriorating for years, you can be on a Montana Interstate at 105 mph, and you don't know it, but the next county line is coming up and the construction firm that last paved the road up there had some sort of issue with failed expansion joint pins, and they all just put up a sign six miles past where the road surface went straight to hell, "rough road". Of course, if you have traveled the road you're on frequently and know it well, that changes the calculus. Remember the Bugatti Veyron clip on YouTube where the guy lost control at some 180-200 mph, because he did not correctly discern road camber changes that made him attempt to correct at the steering wheel when he should have ridden them out.
Go to a track if you want to stretch out, spare the rest of us.
Colin
Last edited by Amskeptic; 03-19-21 at 12:56 PM.
#139
Roads in the U.S. have been deteriorating for years, you can be on a Montana Interstate at 105 mph, and you don't know it, but the next county line is coming up and the construction firm that last paved the road up there had some sort of issue with failed expansion joint pins, and they all just put up a sign six miles past where the road surface went straight to hell, "rough road". Of course, if you have traveled the road you're on frequently and know it well, that changes the calculus.
But yes I agree, knowing the road changes so much. Not only the corners coming up, but also the pavement quality. I hope my post didn't come across like I'm some speed demon - in a way I can see how it does. But I'm not weaving in\out of traffic or blowing by people. There's a very clear difference between quick and reckless to me.
As for proper B-roads in a car built for corners\canyons (not the LS); on roads I have driven dozens of times... yeah I do move at a faster pace. But in those cases, there's nobody else around. Empty roads. That's a big difference.
Nobody should be hitting 100 mph + without knowing their vehicle's tire condition/inflation pressures, and they should definitely check all suspension components and fasteners, not to mention brake caliper bolts, etc. If your car has imbalances in the engine/torque converter, driveshaft, or wheels, you might find that things "smooth out" at high speeds, but actual forces go up with the square of the speed.
To me, as long as you fix things when they come up, regularly get either your or a paid set of eyes on the components of the car for inspection and don't defer anything, the car is "as good as it's going to get". You can't just go around replacing every component because it's 2% more likely to fail because it's 2 years beyond it's end of warranty.
#140
Lead Lap
I've never understood the fascination with top speed since it's useless and dangerous on public roads. A car I have on order has a top speed of 194 mph according to the manufacturer but I doubt that it will ever see more than the 75 mph speed limit of the Kansas Turnpike.
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#141
Lead Lap
IMO I think the biggest thing to watch out for is differential in speed. I always hate when there is more than a 10-20% difference in speed between the lanes, it makes me super nervous. I'm worried someone is going to jump out or something stupid will happen. It's the speed differentials that are super dangerous.
#142
I’ve done 155 a few times in my 99 slicktop ls400. It gets there pretty nicely.quick
jbrady...unless you try it yourself, guesses or estimations do not give you an exact number. LS has one of the lowest drag co-efficient on the market. It is even lower then vette's. If your car is lowered, your drag reduses even further. I did 158 with a friend in a car and above 160 alone (don't know exactly since I ran out of speedometer marks) on stock rated tires. These cars have some serious speed potential.
#144
Lexus Test Driver
again these cars are just getting too old for this kind of abuse. i run mine at close to 100 almost every day to and from work on the highway, but but all the way open as fast as she can go? id be afraid something would blow.
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