Iansaltes

Do you not think there are any good aftermarket headunits for the LS? Granted most of them have all these blue and green bright lights everywhere, but I have seen a few that look real decent. I have an indash DVD in mine, so I guess I have no room to talk , but aftermarket headunits almost always put out more power, and you can go with better speakers to and it will sound better, in my opinion. Lexus did a great job from the factory though, the way they angled, positioned, and powered the factory speakers....definitely way ahead of their time too, compared the other luxury manufactures in the class.

TJW98LS

iTrader: (1)

I disagree. I highly doubt anycar of that size would be much safer than a 5-star LS400. Have you seen the crash test of a Scion? And that special wall they crash into is suppost to be like hitting a car of the same size and wieght. The LS400 would do much better crashing into a truck than a scion would.

Iansaltes

I wonder if the crash tests of today are way more strict... so maybe, a 3 start crash test rating overall of a Scion today would be equal to that of a 5-star LS 18 years ago? I have no idea, that just popped into my head.

Without any research, I do agree that the LS would be safer in a head on accident... but there are so many different tests they run, and I bet the tC would beat out the LS on some.

The tC is rated surprsingly high
http://www.safercar.gov/Index2.cfm?m...ecific+vehicle

sonyman

Respectfully, you have no idea what you're talking about.

tC: http://youtube.com/watch?v=C_fN6YK40WI

LS400: http://youtube.com/watch?v=mc34anEisws

The results for the LS400 are largely applicable to 1995-2000. I doubt 1990-1994 results would be any better.

Iansaltes

While I am on your side, I dont think those videos prove much.. for one, we dont know the speed. Secondly, an offset head on is just one test (probably the BEST one though). What the videos don't show is how the dummy reacted (crushed knees, how well airbag deloyed i.e. speed/angle, you know, all that good stuff...). It sure looks like the tC did better though, but again, it all depend on how fast the vehicle was moving. According to the DOT, the tC is very safe....earlier LSs, eehh... not as much.

909LS

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PureDrifter

iTrader: (10)

my 95 went toe to toe with a tundra head on @~30mi in OPPOSITE directions and i walked away from it.

try that in a Tc, the paramedics and PD both told me that had i been in a corolla or scion (assuming they meant Tc) that i would have most likely be leaving in a box.

forpinks

I have a question on paint, would it be better to keep the "two tone" OE paint job or pay a bunch of money for an entirely new single tone high gloss, show quality paint job if I'm going with a "somewhat" obnoxiously big JDM body kit, air ride and those wide 19"s ? (I like those sexy colors from Aston Martin DB9s.)

forpinks

There's a secret in tCs... You don't wear seat belts so you could live another day by being thrown out the 100% glass roof!

Kidding... I'm pretty sure the LS400 is safer than my tC.

kens97sto

I suspect that the tC would be safer overall. In a head on.. possibly even. But in a serious side impact you would likely be killed in the LS, and any other car without both Side, and Curtain airbags... There is just no getting around it... without the bags.. your dead. Or you may wish that you were dead.

The two crashes show in the previous post cant be compared.. the LS is being tested in an offset impact, and the tC is a straight head on, making me tend to think the LS may do better in the front crash.


One other thing.. make sure you check that trunk space for your drums, The LS has a deep trunk, but it does not go that far forward. the fuel tank sits between the back seat and the trunk.

I found a vid that is comparing and older big car to a newer small car... suggesting that bigger and heavier are not a garantee for better saftey, you MUST do the resarch comparing car to car to find out... There are some small cars (the Mini Cooper, Renault Modus) that are very safe... and some large cars that are NOT safe... (Chevy Venture/Pontiac Montana etc). and the other way around too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ygYUYia9I

I would keep the Scion tC.

Ken

forpinks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXeKS...eature=related

What! Lower cars are more dangerous??? My tC is 2 inches lower than stock tCs...

oslo

According to this study, bigger cars are generally safer:
http://www.greatcarstv.com/news/dangerous-cars.html

sonyman

Generally, yes. However, advancements in automotive technology have resulted in much stiffer structures and much safer vehicles overall. A 1995-2000 LS400 would not fare as well as a brand new tC, regardless of the weight and size differences.

heyhowyado

hmmm....i dunno...not sure i agree.

do you know this for a fact or are you just guessing??

sonyman

I know for a fact. Take a look at any side-impact tests from recent years and notice how as a whole, newer cars are performing much better. Automakers are builder much stronger unibody structures and cars are performing much better in collisions of all types than they used too. I'd personally take a Scion tC over an LS400 hands down if my chief concern were safety.