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Old 10-29-20, 07:04 AM
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Old 10-29-20, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by neonninja
I have purchased another cluster from a 95 RHD which luckily is in very good condition and untouched. All is working though except the fuel gauge has dropped below E.

Lots of picture taken of the board and the Caps. Will post here.

I am trying to confirm where the Odometer reading is stored on the board, as my car has low km (just over 200,000) compared to the 300,000km on the dash I have just purchased. Any ideas?
I believe that the odometer reading is stored to the EEPROM chip 8030 referenced IC104.
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Hey there guys! I just recently brought a 1993 LS400 with a couple of problems. The car itself runs great, but the only problem I am currently having is with the Speedometer/odometer and the lighting. Like I was told, I got the 3 capacitors Micro Soldered and then went to plug it in and it still dose not light up the whole dash. The only thing it does now is that the needles have light and I do not have to wait for the car to warm up for them to come on. Im very puzzled right now and not completely sure on what to do. If anyone could help me out or give me some advice I would really appreciate it. Also I brought the car not knowing the exact KMS but was told that he was being honest and has only driven around 190. Im really thankful for any replies and sorry for my English, its not my first language.
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Originally Posted by 93L
Hey there guys! I just recently brought a 1993 LS400 with a couple of problems. The car itself runs great, but the only problem I am currently having is with the Speedometer/odometer and the lighting. Like I was told, I got the 3 capacitors Micro Soldered and then went to plug it in and it still dose not light up the whole dash. The only thing it does now is that the needles have light and I do not have to wait for the car to warm up for them to come on. Im very puzzled right now and not completely sure on what to do. If anyone could help me out or give me some advice I would really appreciate it. Also I brought the car not knowing the exact KMS but was told that he was being honest and has only driven around 190. Im really thankful for any replies and sorry for my English, its not my first language.
Sounds like the CCFL driver circuit is not functioning. It may be caused by the failed driver or the power supply circuit for the driver is failed. If I were you, I'd simply check other electrolytic capacitors using an ESR meter and replace failed ones. Aged electrolytic capacitors reduce the capacitance as well as to increase the ESR and the high ESR capacitors degrade the function of the power circuit. The ESR can be mostly checked without removing capacitors from the board. Simply attach test leads to each capacitor and read the ESR value. Generally speaking, the ESR should be less than a few hundred mΩ. If an ESR meter is not available quickly, the simplest way to try would be to replace all the electrolytic capacitors. They are aged 27 years old and about to fail, you know.
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Originally Posted by Yamae
For 93-94 LS400 owners, I recommend to use following capacitors for your cluster fix.

For C212 10/16V,
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...37CT-ND/817534

For C142 4.7uF/25V,
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...41CT-ND/817538

For C147 10uF/50V,
http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...43CT-ND/817540
Dear Yamae

Thanks for excellent info concerning cluster repair. Original post with recommended capacitors is from 2016.
We all know current worldwide shortage with electronics & components for automotive industry, means it's not easy (as today - year 2022) to find them.

I would like to repair my 93 LS400 cluster. Only recommended capacitor, I found available to order, is from Mouser:
For C142 4.7uF/25V
EEE-HB1E4R7R
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...6JE7RJeA%3D%3D

I can not find, no stock in Digi-Key, Mouser:

C212 10/16V, EEE-HB1C100R
C147 10uF/50V, EEE-HB1H100P

Would you please advise, are there alternatives, (available) what capacitors we could use for C212 and C147?



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Originally Posted by EstLs
Dear Yamae

Thanks for excellent info concerning cluster repair. Original post with recommended capacitors is from 2016.
We all know current worldwide shortage with electronics & components for automotive industry, means it's not easy (as today - year 2022) to find them.

I would like to repair my 93 LS400 cluster. Only recommended capacitor, I found available to order, is from Mouser:
For C142 4.7uF/25V
EEE-HB1E4R7R
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...6JE7RJeA%3D%3D

I can not find, no stock in Digi-Key, Mouser:

C212 10/16V, EEE-HB1C100R
C147 10uF/50V, EEE-HB1H100P

Would you please advise, are there alternatives, (available) what capacitors we could use for C212 and C147?
Please advise manufacturer(s) of capacitors.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by YODAONE
Please advise manufacturer(s) of capacitors.

Thanks.
Capacitors, Yamae recommended in his post #101, are all made by Panasonic.
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Default Panasonic cross to Nichicon

Originally Posted by EstLs
Capacitors, Yamae recommended in his post #101, are all made by Panasonic.

Ok.. Panasonic lead times are way out there, with no end in site...

Nichicon responded with possible substitutes:

"...would like to repair my 93 LS400 cluster. Only recommended capacitor, I found available to order, is from Mouser:
For C142 4.7uF/25V
EEE-HB1E4R7R

UCD1V4R7MCL1GS
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...6JE7RJeA%3D%3D

I can not find, no stock in Digi-Key, Mouser:

C212 10/16V, EEE-HB1C100R
UCD1C100MCL1GS closest
C147 10uF/50V, EEE-HB1H100P UCD1H100MCL1GS

Obtain Panasonic and Nichicon specifications to compare attributes...


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Default Nichicon and Panasonic Data Sheets

Specifications for Panasonic and Nichicon attached
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Originally Posted by YODAONE
Ok.. Panasonic lead times are way out there, with no end in site...

Nichicon responded with possible substitutes:

"...would like to repair my 93 LS400 cluster. Only recommended capacitor, I found available to order, is from Mouser:
For C142 4.7uF/25V
EEE-HB1E4R7R

UCD1V4R7MCL1GS
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...6JE7RJeA%3D%3D

I can not find, no stock in Digi-Key, Mouser:

C212 10/16V, EEE-HB1C100R
UCD1C100MCL1GS closest
C147 10uF/50V, EEE-HB1H100P UCD1H100MCL1GS

Obtain Panasonic and Nichicon specifications to compare attributes...
Thanks YODAONE for your input. Seems Nichicon lead times are no better.

For C142 4.7uF/25V
UCD1V4R7MCL1GS
Mouser stock availability 0 https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...92VmhMxw%3D%3D
Digi-Key stock availability 0 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MigOIDKIAugL5A

NB! Digi-Key show substitute, can we use as alternative UUA1V4R7MCL1GS. It's available.
Upgrade substitute: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MCL1GS/3438973

For C212 10/16V, UCD1C100MCL1GS
Mouser stock availability 0 https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...ZdtOPxwQ%3D%3D
Digi-Key stock availability 0 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...yKA4gMogC6AvkA

NB! Digi-Key show substitutes, can we use as alternative: UUT1C100MCL1GS and/ or UCL1E100MCL1GS. They are available.
Direct substitute: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MCL1GS/3438761
Upgrade substitute: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MCL1GS/2300358

For C147 10uF/50V, UCD1H100MCL1GS
Mouser stock availability 0 https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...52BWaS3g%3D%3D
Digi-Key stock availability 0 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MigOIDKIAugL5A

Can you give your opinion concerning substitutes Digi-Key website proposed for C142 and C212?

What shall we do withC147 10uF/50V, what can we use there?




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Originally Posted by EstLs
Thanks YODAONE for your input. Seems Nichicon lead times are no better.

For C142 4.7uF/25V
UCD1V4R7MCL1GS
Mouser stock availability 0 https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...92VmhMxw%3D%3D
Digi-Key stock availability 0 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MigOIDKIAugL5A

NB! Digi-Key show substitute, can we use as alternative UUA1V4R7MCL1GS. It's available.
Upgrade substitute: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MCL1GS/3438973

For C212 10/16V, UCD1C100MCL1GS
Mouser stock availability 0 https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...ZdtOPxwQ%3D%3D
Digi-Key stock availability 0 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...yKA4gMogC6AvkA

NB! Digi-Key show substitutes, can we use as alternative: UUT1C100MCL1GS and/ or UCL1E100MCL1GS. They are available.
Direct substitute: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MCL1GS/3438761
Upgrade substitute: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MCL1GS/2300358

For C147 10uF/50V, UCD1H100MCL1GS
Mouser stock availability 0 https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...52BWaS3g%3D%3D
Digi-Key stock availability 0 https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...MigOIDKIAugL5A

Can you give your opinion concerning substitutes Digi-Key website proposed for C142 and C212?

What shall we do withC147 10uF/50V, what can we use there?

Here...did you visit Nichicon website for portal that provides distributor inventory??

Did you look online at other distributors??
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Hey Guys. Great info here but I dont feel comfortable enough to try this myself on my 1994 LS. any recommendations on where to send it to be repaired? Thanks for all the info here. Great stuff
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It worked! I actually did it! Thought I failed when I lifted the pad but it was still attached to tthe trace. This is my first capacitor and soldering experience. My dad got me a little training kit to try soldering, its a little harder than it looks! FYI dont pull at all when its hot enough its just slips off.

Thanks so much for the tutorials. I saved at least $300.

Thing is now I know I got a trouble code 41, so off to trying to diagnose and repair that... anybody loving these first gen LS400 in Austin Tx??????????? I have alot of minor things I would love help doing.
Best of Luck and Lexus's!

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