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Whining sound from front of engine??
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checked belt condition (not too bad, but could be replaced [will be])
belt tensioner marks within good range
belt tensioner moves like it should
removed fan (4 nuts). noise still there.
fan pulley came off with all kinds of metallic junk behind it
fan pulley bearing is clearly shot - problem found.
Now I'm trying to remove the fan bracket. I have the service manual, but the instructions are deep within the T-belt service instructions, so it is not clear how much I can skip along the way.
Thanks for the info that I need to remove the timing covers. Any more detailed info will help. Too bad this hit now. I really need to be gone on my trip.
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Finally got the bracket out. The secret is that there are two 14mm bolts that come in from the side, near the AC compressor. And yes, it appears that this is a secret - I did not find that info in all the online searching or the service manual. I ended up draining the coolant, and removing the battery, battery tray, fan shroud, upper coolant hoses, timing belt covers, intake, etc. It seems like I'm at least half way to the timing belt job.
OP, I expect you have the same problem. When I first heard the sound a few days ago, it sounded like the PS fluid must be low, and there was some correlation with the power steering (which makes sense, since both the fan and the PS pump are on the drive belt).
With the fan and the drive belt off, pull off the fan belt pulley and see if the bearing is smooth. In my case, it was obvious due to the ~3 mm of play and a few teaspoon fulls of metal filings inside the fan pulley. Kind of amazing that it got this bad before making any noise that I noticed.
Let me know if you have any questions - while it is still fresh in my mind.
OP, I expect you have the same problem. When I first heard the sound a few days ago, it sounded like the PS fluid must be low, and there was some correlation with the power steering (which makes sense, since both the fan and the PS pump are on the drive belt).
With the fan and the drive belt off, pull off the fan belt pulley and see if the bearing is smooth. In my case, it was obvious due to the ~3 mm of play and a few teaspoon fulls of metal filings inside the fan pulley. Kind of amazing that it got this bad before making any noise that I noticed.
Let me know if you have any questions - while it is still fresh in my mind.
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www.lexls.com shouldve helped with some visuals.
The replacement part was supposed to be in by 3:00 today, but that got delayed until 7:30 AM tomorrow. Hope I can remember all the steps to put it back together.
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It helped a little. Following the T-belt job instructions there, it shows the fan bracket being removed with the AC compressor still in place. The service manual (which always seems to tell you to remove more than you need to) has compressor removal as one of the previous steps. So lexls.com helped to let me know to ignore that. But I did not see any mention on lexls about those bolts coming in from the side. Luckily I did not break anything, but I probably removed more than I needed to just because I needed better views/clearance to figure it out.
The replacement part was supposed to be in by 3:00 today, but that got delayed until 7:30 AM tomorrow. Hope I can remember all the steps to put it back together.
The replacement part was supposed to be in by 3:00 today, but that got delayed until 7:30 AM tomorrow. Hope I can remember all the steps to put it back together.
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Wow looks like you found the problem to your sound. Sounds like hell of a job there.
I just flushed my ps system and bought new dexron III and it has not been helping :-( so i guess i might need to do the same thing as you have been through. what is the part # ? i will order it from sewellpartsonline.com so i dont have to wait on it.
Have you replaced it yet?
I just flushed my ps system and bought new dexron III and it has not been helping :-( so i guess i might need to do the same thing as you have been through. what is the part # ? i will order it from sewellpartsonline.com so i dont have to wait on it.
Have you replaced it yet?
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Is there any chance I could impose upon you to take pictures at each step of this while you go through with this and post a tutorial? It would be a great tutorial. I believe I've got the same problem, and I am totally at a loss when reading the above.
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Hey folks
I suddently got this whining sound from front of the engine. i cant locate it exsactly but it sounds almost like theres not enough oil in the power steering. But there is plenty and the sounds doesnt come from the pump.
it follows the rpms.
yesterday i tried to take of the belt and started up the engine. the sound was gone.
could this be the waterpump on its way out? :-/
I suddently got this whining sound from front of the engine. i cant locate it exsactly but it sounds almost like theres not enough oil in the power steering. But there is plenty and the sounds doesnt come from the pump.
it follows the rpms.
yesterday i tried to take of the belt and started up the engine. the sound was gone.
could this be the waterpump on its way out? :-/
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