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LS 400 0 - 60 & 1/4 miles times

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Old 08-15-20, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lavrishevo
This data is kind of interesting. Especially, how the 01 430 is slower to 60 then then 98, 99, and 2000 400 but the same as the 99 and 2000 in the 1/4 mile.

1990 Lexus LS 400 0-60 mph 8.0 Quarter mile 15.9

1992 Lexus LS 400 0-60 mph 7.9 Quarter mile 15.8

1993 Lexus LS 400 0-60 mph 8.1 Quarter mile 16.0

1995 Lexus LS 400 0-60 mph 7.3 Quarter mile 15.3

1997 Lexus LS 400 0-60 mph 6.9 Quarter mile 15.0

1998 Lexus LS 400 0-60 mph 6.2 Quarter mile 14.8

1999 Lexus LS 400 0-60 mph 6.2 Quarter mile 14.6

2000 Lexus LS 400 0-60 mph 6.2 Quarter mile 14.6

Just for comparison....

2001 Lexus LS 430 0-60 mph 6.6 Quarter mile 14.6

2007 Lexus LS 460L 0-60 mph 6.1 Quarter mile 14.4

2008 Lexus LS 600hL 0-60 mph 5.3 Quarter Mile 13.6

2010 Lexus LS 460 Sport 0-60 mph 5.9 Quarter Mile 14.2

2012 Lexus LS 460 AWD 0-60 mph 5.9 Quarter Mile 14.0

2013 Lexus LS460 F Sport 0-60 mph rwd 5.4 awd 5.9 Quarter Mile rwd 14.0 awd 14.3

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Installed an LS430 (3UZ-FE) engine into 1999 LS400.

The slower 0-60 of 2001 LS430 vs 1999 LS400 caught my attention because the 2001 LS430 and 1999 LS400 mate to the A650-E 5 speed transmission,.

The torque converter P.N's. are different, so my guess is the LS430 torque converter has a lower stall.speed to take advantage of engines higher torque output and improve fuel efficiency.

Exhaustive inquiry of Toyota, transmission shops, torque converter rebuilders and this forum could not advise the difference.

Without definitive information, used the 1999 LS400 torque converter.

1990 - 1997 LS400 (A340-E?) 4 speed automatic used a higher stall.speed torque converter than used on the 5 speed A650-E.

So in the procedural.progression to increased power and lower stall.speed might explain why the LS430 0 - 60 is slower than 1999 LS400

All things being equal, a higher stall speed generally yields faster 0-60.

So, perhaps someone has stall speed data on 2001-2003 LS430 torque converter.

Thanks






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Wasn’t the LS430 heavier than the 98-00 LS400?
Old 08-16-20, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sdls
Wasn’t the LS430 heavier than the 98-00 LS400?

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus/ls430/2002/
2002 LS430 weighs 3,955 pounds

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/lexus/ls400/1999/
1999 LS400 weighs 3890

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Originally Posted by YODAONE
Good stuff. And the 2001-2003 LS430 had a taller final drive ratio than the 1998-2000 LS400 so that makes up another part of the acceleration difference right there.
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Originally Posted by YODAONE
Installed an LS430 (3UZ-FE) engine into 1999 LS400.

The slower 0-60 of 2001 LS430 vs 1999 LS400 caught my attention because the 2001 LS430 and 1999 LS400 mate to the A650-E 5 speed transmission,.

The torque converter P.N's. are different, so my guess is the LS430 torque converter has a lower stall.speed to take advantage of engines higher torque output and improve fuel efficiency.

Exhaustive inquiry of Toyota, transmission shops, torque converter rebuilders and this forum could not advise the difference.

Without definitive information, used the 1999 LS400 torque converter.

1990 - 1997 LS400 (A340-E?) 4 speed automatic used a higher stall.speed torque converter than used on the 5 speed A650-E.

So in the procedural.progression to increased power and lower stall.speed might explain why the LS430 0 - 60 is slower than 1999 LS400

All things being equal, a higher stall speed generally yields faster 0-60.

So, perhaps someone has stall speed data on 2001-2003 LS430 torque converter.

Thanks
Long gone are the days when the formula was simple math- bore x stroke, gear ratios, weight, etc...
The 400 and 430 are, to put it very simply, different cars. Different weights, Different drag coefficient. Different emissions. Different ECU. Different suspension. To name a few...

I think the info you seek is hiding in plain sight in ULEV data.
Sorry no stall speed info
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