All my crazy Lexus issues SOLVED!! (ECU-leaking capacitor)
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here is an example from one of our Club Lexus members who got an ECU that has incorrect caps installed
there are some NRWA series caps by NIC and some Lelons - none of these are the correct low-ESR type
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as expected, this car is having issues!
please make sure not to deviate from the exact capacitors Yamae and I have recommended in post #1 of this thread, or you Lexus may run worse with its new capacitors, rather than better!
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Oh, Yes. Lelon has bad reputations among PC builders too.![Thumb Down](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsdown.gif)
Also the soldering work of this board is not acceptable to me.![Thumb Down](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsdown.gif)
Using these non low ESR capacitors will cause you the problem quickly again.
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Also the soldering work of this board is not acceptable to me.
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Using these non low ESR capacitors will cause you the problem quickly again.
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glad to have helped someone I have never met!
you are my Ndugu!
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you are my Ndugu!
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Why don't you guys who succeeded to fix the ECU reading this thread to help children as Hayley my friend supports.
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I've been told by a few electronic specialists at the government defense contractor I work at that the solder suckers can lift pads. Stating that solder suckers can heat the pad too much and lift the pads. They are recommending solder wick. Thoughts? Opinions?
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Wick is slow though it does have a place. The proper temp for the iron also plays a part, neither to hot or to low a temp. I used a solder sucker when doing mine and the results were clean with quick removal. I want to limit the duration of heat when working on a board so getting the part out quickly and cleanly is important.
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I actually don't use any kind of solder removal method for this job - not necessary
and your friend is right about the pads being easy to mess up, due to desoldering tools and many other problems, such as too much heat for too long - or wallowing out the holes too much with the safety pin
I have now switched to this ritzy tool and no longer use a safety pin
and your friend is right about the pads being easy to mess up, due to desoldering tools and many other problems, such as too much heat for too long - or wallowing out the holes too much with the safety pin
I have now switched to this ritzy tool and no longer use a safety pin
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If anyone is wondering who rebuilt my ECU i had found a post on eBay that had someone
rebuilding ECU's for $150. Said he was professional and a Lexus dealership in his area
used him as a reputable person to rebuild these ECU's. Seeing how delicate and specific
these ECU's are i believed he would use only the best parts. Thanks to LscowboyLs and this thread that shows what capacitors should be used i found out the ones in there could
possibly create more issues or only go out again in the future.
The guy who did mine is Darryl Geller @
4020 Two Rivers Dr. Cumming, GA. 30041
404-550-7511
Im not sure why he used the caps he did, but if professionals such as Yamae dont
reccommend caps such as the brands mentioned, i would advise not using them unless
you want the same issues to only occur again.
rebuilding ECU's for $150. Said he was professional and a Lexus dealership in his area
used him as a reputable person to rebuild these ECU's. Seeing how delicate and specific
these ECU's are i believed he would use only the best parts. Thanks to LscowboyLs and this thread that shows what capacitors should be used i found out the ones in there could
possibly create more issues or only go out again in the future.
The guy who did mine is Darryl Geller @
4020 Two Rivers Dr. Cumming, GA. 30041
404-550-7511
Im not sure why he used the caps he did, but if professionals such as Yamae dont
reccommend caps such as the brands mentioned, i would advise not using them unless
you want the same issues to only occur again.
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Only issue is I never finished yet. I ordered the wrong capacitors as I noticed today when I opened up the ECU.
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What I bought:
15μF 63V
47μF 100V
100 μF 35V
330 μF 50V
10 μF 16V
10 μF 50V
4.7 μF 25V
What I needede:
10 μF 50V
100 μF 10V
220 μF 16V
15 μF 35V
47 μF 63V
(My car is a 1994 ls400)
So now I have to order again and wait for them to come in. Since I had the time I did decide to go ahead and take out the old ones. I noticed the old capacitors were just slightly leaking from the top and It was hard to tell at first. I initially thought they were completely fine until I noticed the oily wet fluid at the top.
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Diagram I made for myself:
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Old ones out:
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I put everything back in the ECU housing/case and am about to order the appropriate capacitors shortly. This time I will double check! haha
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OK, I am confused, did you order using the links I provided in the recommended capacitors section in post #1 of this thread?
it is OK if the voltage is higher than the original, but you must use the exact capacitors that I linked to - Yamae and I have tried to list all of the acceptable capacitors, in both brand and series
please list exactly what you bought, including brand and series, and where you bought them!
it is OK if the voltage is higher than the original, but you must use the exact capacitors that I linked to - Yamae and I have tried to list all of the acceptable capacitors, in both brand and series
please list exactly what you bought, including brand and series, and where you bought them!
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OK, I am confused, did you order using the links I provided in the recommended capacitors section in post #1 of this thread?
it is OK if the voltage is higher than the original, but you must use the exact capacitors that I linked to - Yamae and I have tried to list all of the acceptable capacitors, in both brand and series
please list exactly what you bought, including brand and series, and where you bought them!
it is OK if the voltage is higher than the original, but you must use the exact capacitors that I linked to - Yamae and I have tried to list all of the acceptable capacitors, in both brand and series
please list exactly what you bought, including brand and series, and where you bought them!
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
1. 15µF 63v KZE Series
2. 47µF 100v KZE Series
3. 100µF 35v ZLH Series
4. 330µF 50v KZE Series
5. 10µF 16v EEA-GA Series
6. 10µF 50v KMG Series
7. 4.7µF 25v KMG Series
8. 10µF 50v KY Series
From Mouser:
1. 10µF 50v KZE Series (I messed up this order. I looked at the picture instead of reading the words. The picture says "22µF 80v" my mistake!)
2. 47uF 35v BP Series
The only one that I don't have is the 220µF. I'll have to get that.
The reason I ordered all these other capacitors is because I plan on doing my instrument cluster too. The lights are starting to dim out and my steering wheel no longer comes out at me when I put the key in the ignition.
So just to triple check, it IS OK to put in caps with higher voltage? Any downsides to this??
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#523
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No downside to higher voltage, only upside
I still am at a loss on how you can buy the wrong capacitors using the links in post #1
the link takes you to the exact capacitor you need in each case, so how you bought a 4.7 uF is beyond me!
and whu would you buy 3 of each??? - I have the correct quantities listed!
and why did you buy a 330 uF ??? or a 10uF 16V or a 47uF 35v![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
to review - here is what your car uses:
Qty. 2 of 10μF - 50v
Qty. 2 of 15μF - 35v
Qty. 1 of 47μF - 63v
Qty. 2 of 100μF - 10v
Qty. 1 of 220μF - 16v
higher voltages are fine, as long as they are from my links
I still am at a loss on how you can buy the wrong capacitors using the links in post #1
the link takes you to the exact capacitor you need in each case, so how you bought a 4.7 uF is beyond me!
and whu would you buy 3 of each??? - I have the correct quantities listed!
and why did you buy a 330 uF ??? or a 10uF 16V or a 47uF 35v
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
to review - here is what your car uses:
Qty. 2 of 10μF - 50v
Qty. 2 of 15μF - 35v
Qty. 1 of 47μF - 63v
Qty. 2 of 100μF - 10v
Qty. 1 of 220μF - 16v
higher voltages are fine, as long as they are from my links
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No downside to higher voltage, only upside
I still am at a loss on how you can buy the wrong capacitors using the links in post #1
the link takes you to the exact capacitor you need in each case, so how you bought a 4.7 uF is beyond me!
and whu would you buy 3 of each??? - I have the correct quantities listed!
and why did you buy a 330 uF ??? or a 10uF 16V or a 47uF 35v![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
to review - here is what your car uses:
Qty. 2 of 10μF - 50v
Qty. 2 of 15μF - 35v
Qty. 1 of 47μF - 63v
Qty. 2 of 100μF - 10v
Qty. 1 of 220μF - 16v
higher voltages are fine, as long as they are from my links
I still am at a loss on how you can buy the wrong capacitors using the links in post #1
the link takes you to the exact capacitor you need in each case, so how you bought a 4.7 uF is beyond me!
and whu would you buy 3 of each??? - I have the correct quantities listed!
and why did you buy a 330 uF ??? or a 10uF 16V or a 47uF 35v
![Uhh...](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/1387914497.gif)
to review - here is what your car uses:
Qty. 2 of 10μF - 50v
Qty. 2 of 15μF - 35v
Qty. 1 of 47μF - 63v
Qty. 2 of 100μF - 10v
Qty. 1 of 220μF - 16v
higher voltages are fine, as long as they are from my links
I bought 3 of each just to have some extras on hand. Just in case something crazy happens like I drop one and step on it / lose it or something extreme along those lines. As for why I bought the wrong ones? I have no clue!!
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Well I remember I was in a rush when I placed the order so I probably just copied things down wrong.
Anyway, I will go and order the correct caps using your links on page one. I'll actually read the words carefully this time!
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Thank you LS!
(EDIT: The 4.7uF and a few others were for the instrument cluster)