Something that I have Noticed: Stock vs Mod
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Something that I have Noticed: Stock vs Mod
Something that I have noticed on the LS forums is that the general population prefers keeping the LS stock... Not so many modify their LS. Well this is definitely true in the later models. Now I know keeping the car stock retains that amazing ride quality, but to the people who have modified their suspension, ucf20/21 owners' input greatly appreciated here, have you noticed a big difference between ride quality? And what is the general consensus on modifying "too much"?
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I don't think you are going to find anything like a "general consensus". From my personal experience, even a "plus zero" tire size change (e.g. 205/65-15 to 225-60-15) dramatically and negatively effects ride quality.
#3
Modifying cars is quite simple. I feel that it is done because the owner is going after a certain look. What it takes to achieve that look is up to the owner. Things like ride quality and such will be overlooked if the finished concept is for it to be really wild and low.
If you just want a subtle lowering or something, the car won't change drastically, but like Kaiyin said, even little changes such as tires can drastically change the ride.
Coming from my past cars, proper dampening and mating of springs and shocks, ride height, tire/rim diameter all play a role in how the car will feel.
Go ride in some ls400s that have been lowered, California has quiet a few, see what you think.
But to me, if you want it to look like a certain way bad enough, you will do what it takes to get it there, and disregard the change in ride quality.
If you just want a subtle lowering or something, the car won't change drastically, but like Kaiyin said, even little changes such as tires can drastically change the ride.
Coming from my past cars, proper dampening and mating of springs and shocks, ride height, tire/rim diameter all play a role in how the car will feel.
Go ride in some ls400s that have been lowered, California has quiet a few, see what you think.
But to me, if you want it to look like a certain way bad enough, you will do what it takes to get it there, and disregard the change in ride quality.
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Thanks for the great responses. I feel the same. Once I felt the difference between my LS and all the other heavily modded cars I've owned I honestly had a sigh of relief and told myself, "this is what I've been missing." But yes I do want to lower my car a bit, and I am ready to face the decrease in ride quality. Not planning to do anything crazy here but glad to hear some responses.
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I rode stock height for 6 months and I deffinetly enjoyed the plushness of this car and 60 series tires. Even now sitting this low it's obviously more harsh but I think the chassis soaks it up very good when compared to other lowered platforms.
I previously had a heavily modified 01' Avalon on JIC coils which rode like s*** when I canned it. At stock height it was nice but not even close to an LS.
I previously had a heavily modified 01' Avalon on JIC coils which rode like s*** when I canned it. At stock height it was nice but not even close to an LS.
#9
My car is pretty darn low IMO. I'm running some of the cheaper coilovers (megans) and it surprises everybody how smooth and comfortable it rides. People that look at the car think it rides like crap and is bumpy, but when they go for a ride it changes there opinion real quick.
I'm not saying it's not stiffer than stock, but for how low the car is it rides great. BUT at the same time I'm sure I overlook a few things because I love the car and the way it looks.
LScowboyLS - This hurt my feelings..... Mine only has about 135k, and I think I improved the car.
I'm not saying it's not stiffer than stock, but for how low the car is it rides great. BUT at the same time I'm sure I overlook a few things because I love the car and the way it looks.
LScowboyLS - This hurt my feelings..... Mine only has about 135k, and I think I improved the car.
#10
I love these cars, but they aren't some rare exotic or limited edition special. There are more than enough examples in existence to make me have no qualms about modifying an LS400.
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Posted this in Car Chat yesterday. See what some of these Japanese auto people do. From faithful restoration to modified. I wish there was a Toyota guy stateside like Yoshiya Watanabe and what does to the Nissans. Maybe shipping my RA42 Celica back to the homeland for some mods by one of these craftsmen would be a dream.
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I will be going with Megan streets as well... Definitely by looking to spend too much on dropping the car. Especially since all I'm looking for is the aesthetics and ride quality. Megans on my SC were actually pretty soft when I wanted them to be so I figured they'd be the same on the LS.
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Posted this in Car Chat yesterday. See what some of these Japanese auto people do. From faithful restoration to modified. I wish there was a Toyota guy stateside like Yoshiya Watanabe and what does to the Nissans. Maybe shipping my RA42 Celica back to the homeland for some mods by one of these craftsmen would be a dream.
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouhdGnH1QmA
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouhdGnH1QmA
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miles, if you used to be a photographer for JNCM then you must know tony (fender rolling guy).
back on topic, of course lowering the car would increase the stiffness but a car this plush and heavy, it almost calls for a higher spring rate to compensate it all. even then the car, to me, is still controlled and very much daily drivable (dare i say, even with a baby on board)! then again i'm on aftermarket air suspension, and my other car is my race car with full stiff suspension and bucket seats; the complete opposite of the LS.
back on topic, of course lowering the car would increase the stiffness but a car this plush and heavy, it almost calls for a higher spring rate to compensate it all. even then the car, to me, is still controlled and very much daily drivable (dare i say, even with a baby on board)! then again i'm on aftermarket air suspension, and my other car is my race car with full stiff suspension and bucket seats; the complete opposite of the LS.