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Old 01-11-14, 03:27 AM
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I've got a '99 LS400 with 240,000km... If I gutted both the cat converters would this be of any advantage to have free flow ?
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Breathing is always good for an engine, however the legalities of it depending on where you are in Aus can be a nuisance
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Originally Posted by fastegg
I've got a '99 LS400 with 240,000km... If I gutted both the cat converters would this be of any advantage to have free flow ?
No!! - the LS400 cats are very well designed and very high performing (free flow) and very reliable (and very expensive)

If you "gut" them, you will lose performance, fuel mileage, as well as emissions compliance - in order to gain any performance advantage from "gutting " cats, you would have to reprogram the ECU, and no one has ever successfully broken the encryption on LS400 ECU's - so this is a very bad idea all around, you lose in every category and gain nothing!

If you want high performance, get a Nissan GT-R
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oh, he wanted to go airborne?

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Originally Posted by LScowboyLS
No!! - the LS400 cats are very well designed and very high performing (free flow) and very reliable (and very expensive)

If you "gut" them, you will lose performance, fuel mileage, as well as emissions compliance - in order to gain any performance advantage from "gutting " cats, you would have to reprogram the ECU, and no one has ever successfully broken the encryption on LS400 ECU's - so this is a very bad idea all around, you lose in every category and gain nothing!

If you want high performance, get a Nissan GT-R
Even if their 15 years old and 240,000km ?
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Breathing is always good for an engine, however the legalities of it depending on where you are in Aus can be a nuisance
I'm not the slightest bit concerned about legalities...
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[QUOTE=LScowboyLS;8321989]oh, he wanted to go airborne?

Nice pic...
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Originally Posted by fastegg
Even if their 15 years old and 240,000km ?
yeah, 240,000 km is nothing for LS400 cats - they will easily go 450,000 km

the only exception is if you lived in a place where they salt the roads and they were getting a hole in them

there are PLENTY of better things to spend your money on, like every piece of rubber under your car (bushings, ball joints, etc.)

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Originally Posted by fastegg
I'm not the slightest bit concerned about legalities...
Where I'm from its wise to at least consider them, with the new stupid impound laws that have been brought in. Courtesy of Campbell Newman.
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unless you have a problem with the stock cats or have gone for a forced induction setup there is no tangible benefit to replacing the cats.
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Originally Posted by UCF11R
Where I'm from its wise to at least consider them, with the new stupid impound laws that have been brought in. Courtesy of Campbell Newman.
Impound laws ?... for emissions ?
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For any defect haha. I know NSW is pretty strict on emissions too. I'm from Queensland though. Where you can be impounded for simply revving your car.
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Originally Posted by LScowboyLS
yeah, 240,000 km is nothing for LS400 cats - they will easily go 450,000 km

the only exception is if you lived in a place where they salt the roads and they were getting a hole in them

there are PLENTY of better things to spend your money on, like every piece of rubber under your car (bushings, ball joints, etc.)
Done all that Mr LScowboyLS.. Bilstein shocks, ball joints, Rola control arm bushes, reco'd steering rack, customs 24mm solid rear sway bar, braided steel brake lines, 225/55/16 Directional tyres... 42psi, ... It steers and drives like new.. no clunks or creeks...
Everything I do now I would like to do for improved fuel economy.. In the 4 years since I bought it, petrol prices have doubled to $1.60 per litre .....
I thought if anything, gutting the cat con's it might run a bit leaner... I have an air/fuel gauge insert welded in the header pipes.. just haven't put the gauge in yet... also an EGT insert...
I also have a Jaycar digital fuel adjuster... its about 128 way points and splices into the intake air temp sensor... Auto speed tested it on our model LS400 and said it worked a treat...
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2576/article.html (read parts 1,2 and 3 in top lines )
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Originally Posted by fastegg
Done all that Mr LScowboyLS.. Bilstein shocks, ball joints, Rola control arm bushes, reco'd steering rack, customs 24mm solid rear sway bar, braided steel brake lines, 225/55/16 Directional tyres... 42psi, ... It steers and drives like new.. no clunks or creeks...
Everything I do now I would like to do for improved fuel economy.. In the 4 years since I bought it, petrol prices have doubled to $1.60 per litre .....
I thought if anything, gutting the cat con's it might run a bit leaner... I have an air/fuel gauge insert welded in the header pipes.. just haven't put the gauge in yet... also an EGT insert...
I also have a Jaycar digital fuel adjuster... its about 128 way points and splices into the intake air temp sensor... Auto speed tested it on our model LS400 and said it worked a treat...
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2576/article.html (read parts 1,2 and 3 in top lines )
removing the cats will not make any noticeable effect on the AFR. any increases would be due to flow increases, and would be minimal.


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