sha4000

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No CL discount at Lexus of south atl, That's Sewell but I find atl to be a little cheaper still. If you have a press i would go that route and save the extra money for something else.

Greg5OH

if i could find the bushings! however it does come with a new BJ as well, BJ two bushigns and an arm for 180..not too bad, but i imagine if i could find the BJ it would be about 50ish bucks, bushings 20...thats a total savings including both sides of ~200$!

Greg5OH

anyone make a poly bushing for the rear A arms? can i biuy the upper rear ball joint seperate as well?

Greg5OH

I dont get how ADUS 583 can replace the factory ball joint type bushing..wont it bind like a ****? The part that i keep referring to is the bushing closest to lower right of the pic sha400 posted

Greg5OH

and can someone confirm if the rear upper A arm bushings are the same thru all years of ls400s? I read somewhere that they are but i need confirmation. Really dont want rubber as im sure it will tear soon going full up and full down on the airride.

PureDrifter

iTrader: (10)

the factory bush isn't a heim joint asit's made of stiff rubber, not a bearing.

yes the adus will work fine.

Greg5OH

i am still skeptical. The adus 505 shows it for the tension rod, (48780) and not the camber arm (487308). THe one i ordered from ROC is exactly like the OEM one,


which is a spherical joint...

Im also goign to pull the trigger on the upper A arms. I cant find a new BJ anywhere!

Greg5OH

goin on a binger and replacing all old components, complete rear A arms, new grease seal for teh axle shaft because mine is a spewin grease, new tension rod bushings, camber and toe arms are Battle Version heim joint units and they are tight. Also replacing inner and outer tie rods on the front, strut rods were changed by PO, so whatever else is untouched is getting worked!

timmy0tool

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nice man, get that suspension tight! take pics of the progress. that's always fun to see.

Greg5OH

seems my rear upper control arms have balljoint type bushings in them..

PureDrifter

iTrader: (10)

those are standard rubber bushings, there's no such thing as a "ball joint type bushing". A ball joint is a joint, not a bushing.

I really feel the following will help you, your incorrect terminology is causing confusion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_joint
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_end_bearing (not lack of significant rubber bearing, which exists on the one you mentioned earlier)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bushing_(isolator)

Greg5OH

my friend, i will show u the spherical joint that i pushed out of it. thsi NOT a normal rubber bushing, this is 100% a ball jooint/spherical joint whatever u wanna call it. not jsut a rubber bushing. It encapulated by a small 1/2" ring of rubber .
I will go home at lunch to take a pic of this. My currnt picture does not show this well.

Greg5OH

here she is in all her defeat. That is a ball and socket, ball joint, spherical bearing whatever you wanna call it, all i know is that its no ordinanary rubber bushing. Interestingly though its has a small layer of rubber beween the inner and outer sleeve as well.

I was looking at a few pics of em on the internet, (240$ from a random site for 176 genuine lexus..ha!)
seeeems that they ceom with the same spherical bearings.

PureDrifter

iTrader: (10)

it's not a "standard" rubber bushing, but it isn't a ball joint either. iirc they're called incapsulated rubber bushings, or encased rubber bushings. think bushing in bushing.

Greg5OH

Ordered a special bushing press spc 40929, its been shown in the gs forum by figs engineering that it fits these bushings perfectly, and the knluckle bushings are same on the gs as the ls, 45 mm diameter 50 mm long. No room for a normal bushing press in there, and this specialty ones the outer fork is perfect size to allow passage od the old bushing while holding onto the small outer lip.

ps: sewell lexus is the cheapest, when you log in with CL credentials those arms are 176 a peice vs 180 from lex of south atl. all the other prices are a bit cheaper too and shipping was half the cost! I also got all new hardware. Dont wanna deal with nasty rusty gritty bolts. ...knew i should have bought that vibrating hardware cleaner from HF when it was on sale!