Which is preferable setup - H&R + Bilstein HD or H&R + KYB?
#1
Which is preferable setup - H&R + Bilstein HD or H&R + KYB?
Sorry, I know I have asked my fair number of questions in this area, but want to make sure I dont sacrifice too much ride quality from the LS. I am looking for a mild drop with smooth handling and tighter steering responses around curves. This car is a DD for me, so not looking for sports car handling. Thanks.
18" wheels and 245/45/18 tires are also planned for this setup. FYI.
18" wheels and 245/45/18 tires are also planned for this setup. FYI.
Last edited by 9000revs; 04-27-15 at 01:30 PM.
#2
the KYBs are equivalent to the shocks it came with so probably those but i can't speak from experience, yet... gonna be getting the H&R's installed soon
and do you mean 245/45-18 or are they actually 225/45-18
and do you mean 245/45-18 or are they actually 225/45-18
#3
Depends on your backside relative to smoothness, etc. The Bilstein HD's have been in ours for 100K miles and coupled with the Eibach springs, I'm still pleased. The Bilstein has two perch settings so using the lower one results in about 1/2" additional drop if you want that. Tire choice also plays a part if you choose all season or summer types.
Bilstein HD to me is
Bilstein HD to me is
#4
#5
Will be choosing all seasons, quieter ones.
Depends on your backside relative to smoothness, etc. The Bilstein HD's have been in ours for 100K miles and coupled with the Eibach springs, I'm still pleased. The Bilstein has two perch settings so using the lower one results in about 1/2" additional drop if you want that. Tire choice also plays a part if you choose all season or summer types.
Bilstein HD to me is
Bilstein HD to me is
#6
all other things being equal, the KYBs will ride considerably softer and floaty-er than the Bilsteins. The bilsteins will offer more damping so if you want more roll control they're the best bet.
#7
I agree with what you say, but how stiff (est) is this combo going to be (H&R + Bilstein)? 10-20-30%? Will I be feeling all imperfections on the road suddenly? How about H&R + Kyb in this respect?
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#10
I have H&R with KYB struts. The ride is still firmer but still has some body roll. It is a good combo for freeway driving. Under moderate to hard corners their is some body roll. Still has a slight floaty feel but barely.
I also cut the rear H&R springs because it was too high (raked) for me.
I also cut the rear H&R springs because it was too high (raked) for me.
#11
in all my past exerpieces with various other makes and models, H&R always runs raked! it's fine to the cut the dead coils to make it even.
i'm with bilstein as well. you will want a stiffer shock to combat a stiffer spring rate. KYB is more like an OEM shock for OEM springs. we all know it's not recommended putting an OEM shock with aftermarket springs. my $0.02.
i'm with bilstein as well. you will want a stiffer shock to combat a stiffer spring rate. KYB is more like an OEM shock for OEM springs. we all know it's not recommended putting an OEM shock with aftermarket springs. my $0.02.
#12
Performance tires can be reasonably quiet. Many areas to ponder about ride qualities, handling, traction...etc. The past threads we've read of the KYB's and Tokico Blues blowing out. So if you plan on having a huge audio system that adds 200#'s to the trunk a stock type replacement shock may not last.
#13
I have H&R with KYB struts. The ride is still firmer but still has some body roll. It is a good combo for freeway driving. Under moderate to hard corners their is some body roll. Still has a slight floaty feel but barely.
I also cut the rear H&R springs because it was too high (raked) for me.
I also cut the rear H&R springs because it was too high (raked) for me.
in this post was the initial shot with the stock wheels taken before you cut the springs? is that what i should expect after putting the H&R's on? people have said that the H&R's run raked, does that mean it'll be a bit lower in the front? i kinda want the same height front and rear
#14
From personal experience, the KYB GR-2/Excel G struts seem to be EXTREMELY soft in the rear but reasonably firm up front. I'm not sure if it was my particular set of shocks but the rear felt slightly floaty while they were on my car.
Moving from KYB/Tanabe combo to coilovers, it makes me realise that combination was reasonably firm yet still very soft and cushiony if that makes sense. I don't have any experience with H&R + Bilstein combo so I can't comment there.
Moving from KYB/Tanabe combo to coilovers, it makes me realise that combination was reasonably firm yet still very soft and cushiony if that makes sense. I don't have any experience with H&R + Bilstein combo so I can't comment there.
#15
From personal experience, the KYB GR-2/Excel G struts seem to be EXTREMELY soft in the rear but reasonably firm up front. I'm not sure if it was my particular set of shocks but the rear felt slightly floaty while they were on my car.
Moving from KYB/Tanabe combo to coilovers, it makes me realise that combination was reasonably firm yet still very soft and cushiony if that makes sense. I don't have any experience with H&R + Bilstein combo so I can't comment there.
Moving from KYB/Tanabe combo to coilovers, it makes me realise that combination was reasonably firm yet still very soft and cushiony if that makes sense. I don't have any experience with H&R + Bilstein combo so I can't comment there.
the KYB/H&R combo will feel better, but less ship-like.