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Old 11-27-15, 09:29 PM
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Default Untwisting Twisted Seatbelts...Can't get the buckles to face inboard!

Hi everyone

I cannot for the life of me untwist the front seat belts on my dad's 1990 LS400. Has anyone noticed that somehow these belts twist too easily and leave the buckle on the wrong side?

Why does this happen so easily on the LS400?

Anyway I looked up a bunch of stuff on the internet and tried the folded triangle method with no luck. Is it possible that these belts are twisted multiple times so just trying to fold the belt and pass it through the buckle will still leave you with the buckle on the wrong side.

I see you can easily unbolt the lower seatbelt anchors near the floor but undoing the long bolt and turning it around only adds an extra twist to the belt.

Another aggravating problem to deal with. Does anyone have any wisdom to offer?

Thanks!
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Old 11-27-15, 11:45 PM
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I suspect that the top guide or lower attachment point has been removed at some point and is twisted. Can also be verified by removing the pillar cover of the belt.

I had thought the belt in ours were twisted and had tried to untwist it by folding the belt over and checking. It wasn't, I had missed the the belt was twisted at the lower guide and once righting that it was good.
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You probably have to pull the belt ALL the way out to correct it. Pop the cover off like RA40 suggested.
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pain in the a$$. got the same going on in my 95. oh and the pre tensioners went too so its always loose. fun fun fun.
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Originally Posted by sha4000
You probably have to pull the belt ALL the way out to correct it. Pop the cover off like RA40 suggested.
i agree here. sometimes the twist is at the end, or inside the pillar itself. more likely the lower part of the belt was unbolted from the seat and installed in twisted, or both!

this is one of my peeves on all cars when the buckle isn't facing correctly. as for retracting, that's due to the excess build up of dried sweat, dirt, and dead skin collected into the seat belt fibers making it heavier and clogging up the retracting spring. make it a habit to hand retract the belt prior to exiting the car. that way you don't slam the door shut sandwiching the buckle (cringe!). this also keeps the retracting spring happy.
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Originally Posted by fatlouis
Hi everyone

I cannot for the life of me untwist the front seat belts on my dad's 1990 LS400. Has anyone noticed that somehow these belts twist too easily and leave the buckle on the wrong side?

Why does this happen so easily on the LS400?

Anyway I looked up a bunch of stuff on the internet and tried the folded triangle method with no luck. Is it possible that these belts are twisted multiple times so just trying to fold the belt and pass it through the buckle will still leave you with the buckle on the wrong side.

I see you can easily unbolt the lower seatbelt anchors near the floor but undoing the long bolt and turning it around only adds an extra twist to the belt.

Another aggravating problem to deal with. Does anyone have any wisdom to offer?

Thanks!
Fatlouis
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