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SW17LS 07-18-16 12:58 PM

"needs a little work" haha

pmarr 07-18-16 02:32 PM


"needs a little work" haha
Many things about this post drive me insane.
Condition: (good,fair, excellent) SALVAGE
Drive: 4WD. Is this not "four wheel drive?"
Paint: GREY. Looks white to me.

But it does have the highly coveted 'two different back seat colors" you just don't see enough anymore. You can also tell the demographic one is catering to when one puts an automobile up for sale. At least make the car appear better than it actually is, not treat it like a dirty clothes hamper and Mc Donald's trash can. I'm sure for the price you get to keep the shredded seat cover and pine tree air freshener.

dicer 07-18-16 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by pmarr (Post 9556740)
Many things about this post drive me insane.
Condition: (good,fair, excellent) SALVAGE
Drive: 4WD. Is this not "four wheel drive?"
Paint: GREY. Looks white to me.

But it does have the highly coveted 'two different back seat colors" you just don't see enough anymore. You can also tell the demographic one is catering to when one puts an automobile up for sale. At least make the car appear better than it actually is, not treat it like a dirty clothes hamper and Mc Donald's trash can. I'm sure for the price you get to keep the shredded seat cover and pine tree air freshener.

Oh come on pmarr, all that cool stuff adds to the price. You know its like buying faded and ripped jeans.

This is one of those cars you don't even want to get in to take out parts from. Yeah its the one posted above.
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5677684772.html



So here is one that needs a little fixing
http://twinfalls.craigslist.org/cto/5657968160.html
Just wow for price and condition.


And just a bit of minor damage, I'm sure it could look like new after a days of waxing it.
http://lewiston.craigslist.org/cto/5671012227.html

dicer 07-22-16 01:21 AM

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5687892136.html
Here is one in good drivable condition. What a deal?



I wonder how much was put into this one? Its the bent fender openings that really are attractive, just sooooo cool.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5648626355.html

KJG92 07-24-16 05:18 AM

The whole classic/value thing really is a wait and see thing. With zero aftermarket it is going to be hard to gain any interest in fixing these cars so they'll be VIP'd, slammed, or whatever. Now finding one and maintaining it may become for popular but only time will tell. My son will keep the '92 and sell it in a couple of years. I promised him if he stays on pace in school I'll buy him a older skyline (his dream car). I've been checking a site for a dealer up in Virginia called Japaneseclassics.com and they have some interesting cars. Some cool 4 door luxury cars as well that seem to sell. With the younger crowd that loves imports starting to grow up maybe we'll see a shift in what is getting worked on. It's already happening though. Sitting next to my '75 Malibu is his 76 Celica getting ready for import alliance next year.

pmarr 08-08-16 09:55 PM

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5721392184.html
There's a new kid in town...price is negotiable

hotdawwg 08-08-16 10:04 PM

^Whoof.. That car is rough

python 08-09-16 05:02 AM

Evidently its the first with a 6 cylinder also!

dicer 08-13-16 08:47 PM

http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5713981683.html
Here is a good deal for someone, I bet he takes less as well.

dicer 08-19-16 01:00 AM

Really what is wrong with some people?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...707133138.html

SW17LS 08-19-16 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by dicer (Post 9590407)
Really what is wrong with some people?

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb...707133138.html

I'd have washed it before I took the pictures, but I don't think that car looks that bad for being 26-27 years old and having 170,000 miles on it.

dicer 08-19-16 10:11 AM

Except for the paint.

pmarr 08-19-16 10:55 AM

***clears throat***
"Someone mention paint?"
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...700470290.html

SW17LS 08-19-16 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by dicer
Except for the paint.

It's 27 years old...so it could benefit from a repaint...

CELSI0R 08-19-16 12:53 PM

While we're on the topic of paint, this car isn't on Craigslist, but it looks very odd with a smoothed bumper:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lexus-LS-Whi...-/302045435272

It's also overwhelmingly white from a full respray.


Originally Posted by dicer (Post 9590407)

That actually seems decent, but I do see scuffs and it looks like it hasn't been washed. The interior is in pretty good condition overall, and the chrome wheels look great.

The main thing that caught my eye was the passenger side fog light. It looks like the inner parts of the light corroded, or something of the sort.. Very odd.


Originally Posted by pmarr (Post 9590780)
***clears throat***
"Someone mention paint?"
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...700470290.html

Wow. That is quite a bit of oxidization... I don't see a single panel or trim piece that doesn't need body work.

dicer 08-19-16 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by SW15LS (Post 9590829)
It's 27 years old...so it could benefit from a repaint...

Yeah then the price should reflect the $8000. paint job.
I can show you 4 older LS's that are way better paint wise than that.
Look at post #24 and that was a $1000 car driver fender was fixed at one time rest is factory paint.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...my-90-a-2.html

CELSI0R 08-19-16 03:56 PM

I can't even tell the difference in paint on that car. Looks like a perfect match.

SW17LS 08-19-16 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by dicer
Yeah then the price should reflect the $8000. paint job.
I can show you 4 older LS's that are way better paint wise than that.
Look at post #24 and that was a $1000 car driver fender was fixed at one time rest is factory paint.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...my-90-a-2.html

Nobody is going to do an $8000 paint job on a car like that lol. It's going to be Maaco or driven as is. What more do you want for a $2800 car?

dicer 08-19-16 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by SW15LS (Post 9591112)
Nobody is going to do an $8000 paint job on a car like that lol. It's going to be Maaco or driven as is. What more do you want for a $2800 car?

Just like the slogan I want perfection. And with crap paint it should not cost more than $600. Mine was $1000 and paints way better and less miles too boot. 133K.

And Celsior in real life not a picture its not a perfect match. Of my cars that is the worse one body wise it has a few little dings here and there and a few clear coat bird poo spots etched in.

SW17LS 08-19-16 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by dicer
Just like the slogan I want perfection. And with crap paint it should not cost more than $600. Mine was $1000 and paints way better and less miles too boot. 133K.

And Celsior in real life not a picture its not a perfect match. Of my cars that is the worse one body wise it has a few little dings here and there and a few clear coat bird poo spots etched in.

Expecting perfection in a car this old is madness IMHO. The car is old enough to go out and rent another car without an age surcharge. Worn paint is to be expected.

Somebody will buy that car for way more than $600 lol

I can understand passing on this car for one with better paint if that's important to you, what I don't understand is the surprise and frustration displayed when someone has the audacity to sell a car in this condition. It's a really old
Car, most people don't expect perfect paint when they buy a car this old and this cheap.

dicer 08-19-16 10:30 PM

Old car fine, sell it for an old car price. Old beaters are way less than almost $3000. you can find a real good 94 LS for 2000 I see lots of them and all the paint is shiny and good looking.

CELSI0R 08-19-16 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by dicer (Post 9591159)
in real life not a picture its not a perfect match. Of my cars that is the worse one body wise it has a few little dings here and there and a few clear coat bird poo spots etched in.

Still not bad for $1k though. Looks great to me :)

SW17LS 08-20-16 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by dicer
Old car fine, sell it for an old car price. Old beaters are way less than almost $3000. you can find a real good 94 LS for 2000 I see lots of them and all the paint is shiny and good looking.

But is the interior in as nice a shape as that with no tears, etc?

Anyways, make the guy an offer. I'm sure you can buy that car for less than the $2,800 he has it listed for.

I just don't understand why this bothers you so much.

dicer 08-20-16 08:17 AM

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On the 1K car, the driver seat has some spots other wise pretty good inside.

pmarr 08-20-16 06:24 PM

Dicers deal of the day
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5742095170.html

SW17LS 08-20-16 06:45 PM

Clearly the car has no value because it doesn't have the original head unit lol

In fact, they should pay you to take it.

dicer 08-20-16 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by pmarr (Post 9591962)

Low option car not for me. I'd take some parts though for my other one.
And SW15LS your right, if wires are cut and what else is been done?

SW17LS 08-21-16 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by dicer
Low option car not for me. I'd take some parts though for my other one.
And SW15LS your right, if wires are cut and what else is been done?

I was being funny. I don't consider the radio replacement an issue at all in a car like this lol

In fact if I were buying something like this and indented to drive it a good bit I would replace the radio to get Bluetooth, nav, etc. Plus after 27 years I'm sure the original speakers, which weren't high quality to start, are shot.

dicer 08-21-16 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by SW15LS (Post 9592248)
I was being funny. I don't consider the radio replacement an issue at all in a car like this lol

In fact if I were buying something like this and indented to drive it a good bit I would replace the radio to get Bluetooth, nav, etc. Plus after 27 years I'm sure the original speakers, which weren't high quality to start, are shot.

What? Everything in an LS is top quality. "Pursuit of perfection" you know.

SW17LS 08-21-16 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by dicer (Post 9592348)
What? Everything in an LS is top quality. "Pursuit of perfection" you know.

Have you physically seen the speaker components in these cars yourself? They are not high quality speakers, they are paper coned, low quality speakers. We're not talking about fine high end home audio here, where well cared for speakers actually sound warmer and better with age. People have a lot of speaker failures and sub failures because the speakers are cardboard and they get brittle and fail.

I've owned three LS's spanning multiple generations. Yes the cars are very high quality, very well built and well cared for they really do stay enjoyable to drive and own for many years longer than other cars, but nothing lasts forever and the speakers in these audio systems are pretty typical auto OEM quality, which isn't very good.

New speakers, a new amp, and a modern headunit with nav, bluetooth audio streaming, satellite radio, etc is a very nice useful upgrade to a car like this.

dicer 08-21-16 02:03 PM

Paper what else is there? I'm not a sound system person. And yes have seen the speakers they look like a speaker to me.

SW17LS 08-21-16 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by dicer (Post 9592475)
Paper what else is there? I'm not a sound system person. And yes have seen the speakers they look like a speaker to me.

The cone is paper, the surround and suspension material is a foam type material that breaks down and splits over time.

In short, they don't last forever and age is not their friend.

CELSI0R 08-21-16 04:11 PM

The speaker quality could have been better, but it's not terrible. The rear subwoofer is the worst in terms of wear over time, mainly due to its position right under the rear windshield. The direct path for UV light along with the heat in the cabin of the car deteriorates them.

I just restored mine last year. Not fun, because the housing did not provide a lot of room, but it worked.

jaaa 08-22-16 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by CELSI0R (Post 9592541)
The speaker quality could have been better, but it's not terrible. The rear subwoofer is the worst in terms of wear over time, mainly due to its position right under the rear windshield. The direct path for UV light along with the heat in the cabin of the car deteriorates them.

I just restored mine last year. Not fun, because the housing did not provide a lot of room, but it worked.

My son in law has a 1991 ls400, and I've pulled countless back speakers out of the pick/pull places and they never work regardless of the mileage. I did however manage to get one for my 1996 ls 400 that worked(think the donor was at 96k miles and must have been a garage queen).

hotdawwg 08-22-16 05:46 PM

Pretty Clean 1996 Here: https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5741851020.html

CELSI0R 08-22-16 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by jaaa (Post 9593538)
My son in law has a 1991 ls400, and I've pulled countless back speakers out of the pick/pull places and they never work regardless of the mileage. I did however manage to get one for my 1996 ls 400 that worked(think the donor was at 96k miles and must have been a garage queen).

Just a recommendation for you, since your car has a working rear sub as well. I recommend keeping a car sun shade (those aluminum reflective ones) in the trunk, and putting it over the subwoofer area when the car is parked outside for extended periods of time.

jaaa 08-23-16 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by CELSI0R (Post 9593986)
Just a recommendation for you, since your car has a working rear sub as well. I recommend keeping a car sun shade (those aluminum reflective ones) in the trunk, and putting it over the subwoofer area when the car is parked outside for extended periods of time.

I've been dawdling on that. I need to get one for the front too. I've got a 2001 BMW Z3 and a 2003 Santa Fe that fills my garage so no room for the LS. I do however park it under my largest shade tree most of the day.

pmarr 09-04-16 02:51 PM

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/5765100669.html

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...6a01c5866a.jpg

Free strap.....

SW17LS 09-04-16 03:33 PM

Okay, that ones bad lol

CELSI0R 09-04-16 08:37 PM

Oh, my.. That car definitely needs some work done. I wonder how much stress that strap is putting on the panels to hold the front together.


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