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Old 03-30-19, 08:12 PM
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Default 95-97 Flip Key

I think I'm gonna buy this flip key from Ebay. There's a few others, but this seems to be the only one with all 4 buttons. Has anyone else used it? Any other flip key styles that will work with FCC ID:HYQWDT-C? Now I'm just hoping the key I have is the master.
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Is this for your 97 Coach LS? It looks like it should work.

Here are some notes for checking your key. In general, for 1995+ LS, the master key is black and the valet key is grey.

For 1995-1997 LS, the master key is looks like this:


Here is a 1995-2000 Valet key's appearance:



Here are two Toyota keys of the same generation, demonstrating this difference:


This does not necessarily tell the whole story though, because a "master" key can be cut from a valet key (although not usually the case).

I have gathered that the difference in the cut looks like this (specifically at the end of the key). The Master key is on the left, and the valet is on the right (90-94 LS keys pictured):

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I purchased an Ebay flip key for my 98 and it's worked fine for a few years now. Don't see any reason why this wouldn't work. Good luck.
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Legender, I interpret that it contains the engine transponder chip?
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Originally Posted by RA40
Legender, I interpret that it contains the engine transponder chip?
Do 90-94 have them?
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Originally Posted by Sin1UZFE
Do 90-94 have them?
No transponder for 90-94 LS, and keys are not programmable for those years.
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Originally Posted by CELSI0R
No transponder for 90-94 LS, and keys are not programmable for those years.
So its just cut and done?
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Originally Posted by RA40
Legender, I interpret that it contains the engine transponder chip?
Must have... I only moved over the inside portion of the fob into the new case and then had the key cut to match my other.
I do remember programming the key but the FOB moved over from the old key. I had original keys, just wanted to remove the longer style from my pocket.

I used this one and only moved the key internals over to the new FOB:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BLADE-CUT-b...sAAOSwBF1a4M7P
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Ahh, that's right, I'd forgotten the 98+ key was a different configuration. The transponder was on the board when they were transferred over. This flip type may not work on the transponder chipped '97's notably the Coach Ed that have the transmitter set into in the keyhead.

Spuds post with his key adventures for reference:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...k-maybe-3.html
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Originally Posted by Legender
Must have... I only moved over the inside portion of the fob into the new case and then had the key cut to match my other.
I do remember programming the key but the FOB moved over from the old key. I had original keys, just wanted to remove the longer style from my pocket.

I used this one and only moved the key internals over to the new FOB:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BLADE-CUT-b...sAAOSwBF1a4M7P
You gave me one when we bought the 2000 from you and I just swapped the inside and had it cut, no programming necessary.. still using it.
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Originally Posted by RA40
Spuds post with his key adventures for reference:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...k-maybe-3.html
Bylan also did some very good stuff on keys too.His has real good info on getting keys programmed by a vendor when you dont have a master.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...-solution.html

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Originally Posted by RA40
Ahh, that's right, I'd forgotten the 98+ key was a different configuration. The transponder was on the board when they were transferred over. This flip type may not work on the transponder chipped '97's notably the Coach Ed that have the transmitter set into in the keyhead.

Spuds post with his key adventures for reference:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...k-maybe-3.html
FYI, my 1997 Coach doesn't have the transmitter key. It has the separate fob like most 95-97s. This key matches the FCC ID, and should link up to the car's systems the same way as any for a 95-97. I should just need to have it cut and then go through the process of adding it to the system. Thanks to Celsi0r's post I now know I have the master key.

And no, nothing for 90-94. I have spoken with a vendor who got a kit they found to be not worth pursuing. I will likely be buying their test kit to install on a UCF10, but only if I stick with building on one. I've rather fallen in love with my 97 Coach and am planning on making it my show car.

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Originally Posted by Sin1UZFE
So its just cut and done?
Yes. You can add aftermarket keyless options though. I have seen the Python keyless entry system added to a 1993 model.

Python Security: http://www.pythoncarsecurity.com/Pro.../612/3105.aspx

Image from 1993 LS 400:


Source: https://mycarboard.com/product/aweso...eserve-2018-2/
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Originally Posted by JonnyO78
FYI, my 1997 Coach doesn't have the transmitter key. It has the separate fob like most 95-97s. This key matches the FCC ID, and should link up to the car's systems the same way as any for a 95-97. I should just need to have it cut and then go through the process of adding it to the system. Thanks to Celsi0r's post I now know I have the master key.

And no, nothing for 90-94. I have spoken with a vendor who got a kit they found to be not worth pursuing. I will likely be buying their test kit to install on a UCF10, but only if I stick with building on one. I've rather fallen in love with my 97 Coach and am planning on making it my show car.
That remote will allow door and trunk function per the FCC ID. The seller does not list that these are transponder chip compatible.
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From what I understand, ‘95 didn’t have a transponder inside the key. ‘95 came with a fob. I have my original keys for my ‘95, no transponder chip.


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