We need more cars like the ls400
10-03-19, 06:36 PM
#16
Buyers stateside are continuing to buy SUV and crossover types. Buyers aren't concerned with longevity as they treadmill at 3-6 year intervals to have something new. OTOH car payment schedules are at 7 year terms now. Much discussion about can the "middle class" afford to buy their mid-class cars. Read through the LS500, 460 section on some of the owner experiences. Disheartening to read of the issues that are coming up. The complexity of the gadgets are more so to contend with.
10-03-19, 07:53 PM
#17
Driver School Candidate
Boutique and niche market players would disagree, but I get your point. Toyota is one of the largest car producers in the world who can afford to do things like the LFA which is certainly not what the majority wants. They can afford to re-release the car that created Lexus.
10-03-19, 08:15 PM
#18
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Buyers stateside are continuing to buy SUV and crossover types. Buyers aren't concerned with longevity as they treadmill at 3-6 year intervals to have something new. OTOH car payment schedules are at 7 year terms now. Much discussion about can the "middle class" afford to buy their mid-class cars. Read through the LS500, 460 section on some of the owner experiences. Disheartening to read of the issues that are coming up. The complexity of the gadgets are more so to contend with.
10-03-19, 09:24 PM
#19
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Boutique and niche market players would disagree, but I get your point. Toyota is one of the largest car producers in the world who can afford to do things like the LFA which is certainly not what the majority wants. They can afford to re-release the car that created Lexus.
Right now, Toyota would go to Buick and re-badge a LeSabre. I don't want to see that.
10-03-19, 09:45 PM
#20
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10-04-19, 07:12 AM
#21
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Boutique and niche market players would disagree, but I get your point. Toyota is one of the largest car producers in the world who can afford to do things like the LFA which is certainly not what the majority wants. They can afford to re-release the car that created Lexus.
By the way, we love the "crap that takes control away from the driver". Pre-Collision System (PCS) on one of our current vehicles saved me from a high speed crash in 2014 when a stopped car pulled in front of me on an Interstate highway. We just plain love the adaptive cruise control on our vehicles - it makes long road trips much less stressful ... like the 200 mile drive we're doing today. And Lane Departure Warning with Steering Assist is incredible. When I couldn't see the lane lines in a late night torrential rainstorm on an Interstate highway north of Seattle earlier this year, Steering Assist kept me in my lane - it was like magic. I suspect some people in this discussion have never experienced this technology. Even the least expensive vehicle Toyota is making these days has it.
10-04-19, 08:50 AM
#22
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The current LS has become a niche market vehicle. Sales of the LS have been declining since I bought my first one nearly 30 years ago. I've seen only two or three LS500's on the road since they came out and I might have seen the same one multiple times.
By the way, we love the "crap that takes control away from the driver". Pre-Collision System (PCS) on one of our current vehicles saved me from a high speed crash in 2014 when a stopped car pulled in front of me on an Interstate highway. We just plain love the adaptive cruise control on our vehicles - it makes long road trips much less stressful ... like the 200 mile drive we're doing today. And Lane Departure Warning with Steering Assist is incredible. When I couldn't see the lane lines in a late night torrential rainstorm on an Interstate highway north of Seattle earlier this year, Steering Assist kept me in my lane - it was like magic. I suspect some people in this discussion have never experienced this technology. Even the least expensive vehicle Toyota is making these days has it.
By the way, we love the "crap that takes control away from the driver". Pre-Collision System (PCS) on one of our current vehicles saved me from a high speed crash in 2014 when a stopped car pulled in front of me on an Interstate highway. We just plain love the adaptive cruise control on our vehicles - it makes long road trips much less stressful ... like the 200 mile drive we're doing today. And Lane Departure Warning with Steering Assist is incredible. When I couldn't see the lane lines in a late night torrential rainstorm on an Interstate highway north of Seattle earlier this year, Steering Assist kept me in my lane - it was like magic. I suspect some people in this discussion have never experienced this technology. Even the least expensive vehicle Toyota is making these days has it.
10-04-19, 02:24 PM
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10-04-19, 04:12 PM
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10-04-19, 04:35 PM
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By the way, we love the "crap that takes control away from the driver". Pre-Collision System (PCS) on one of our current vehicles saved me from a high speed crash in 2014 when a stopped car pulled in front of me on an Interstate highway. We just plain love the adaptive cruise control on our vehicles - it makes long road trips much less stressful ... like the 200 mile drive we're doing today. And Lane Departure Warning with Steering Assist is incredible. When I couldn't see the lane lines in a late night torrential rainstorm on an Interstate highway north of Seattle earlier this year, Steering Assist kept me in my lane - it was like magic. I suspect some people in this discussion have never experienced this technology. Even the least expensive vehicle Toyota is making these days has it.
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