We need more cars like the ls400
09-19-19, 07:21 AM
#1
Racer
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We need more cars like the ls400
https://gearpatrol.com/2019/09/19/1990-lexus-ls400-retro-drive-review/
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09-19-19, 06:39 PM
#2
Lexus Test Driver
we very much do
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Sin1UZFE (09-19-19)
09-20-19, 01:18 PM
#3
I am 60+ and have Two LS400. One 1998 in mint condition with 115kmiles.
Perhaps they can keep me happy enough the 20 or so more years I expect to be driving.
Though I expect that when I get really old I may pass them on to someone younger that still DIY.
I fully expect the price for them then to be very much higher then now. A classic car for sure.
Perhaps they can keep me happy enough the 20 or so more years I expect to be driving.
Though I expect that when I get really old I may pass them on to someone younger that still DIY.
I fully expect the price for them then to be very much higher then now. A classic car for sure.
10-01-19, 01:57 PM
#4
I’m sure, there will never be a car like the ls400, the quality and engineer that goes into these cars are astonishing. The project F if you know cost over 1 billion dollars back in the 80’s so equuilant to $3billion in today’s money and over 1000 engineers to it, that’s more engineer than on a Boeing 747. It is the only engine to qualify by the fda to be put into a airplane. I’m very proud to have own my silver 99 ls400 for the past 15 years and it has been super reliable. There will never be another car like this my friends
10-02-19, 09:34 AM
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I’m sure, there will never be a car like the ls400, the quality and engineer that goes into these cars are astonishing. The project F if you know cost over 1 billion dollars back in the 80’s so equuilant to $3billion in today’s money and over 1000 engineers to it, that’s more engineer than on a Boeing 747. It is the only engine to qualify by the fda to be put into a airplane. I’m very proud to have own my silver 99 ls400 for the past 15 years and it has been super reliable. There will never be another car like this my friends
10-02-19, 09:52 AM
#6
Racer
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They don't need to reinvent the wheel or re-engineer anything. Just start producing what they already created; the '99-00 LS400. If they want, they can work with levinson to create a new head unit with aux/Bluetooth for it but otherwise, change nothing, just start making new ones. It might cost a bit to retool the production lines but nothing like creating an entirely new model.
10-02-19, 10:58 AM
#7
Driver School Candidate
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10-02-19, 11:06 AM
#8
Racer
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"Per State Farm, the U.S. mandates that new vehicles have the following safety tools as standard equipment: safety belts, a LATCH child safety seat system, electronic stability control, and front airbags. " The 2000 LS 400 complies with current safety standards. Granted, the cars being produced today have many more safety gimmicks but nothing mandated, at least in US. The EU is a socialist regime, so it is far more oppressive (i.e. nanny state) and they may have more. For Lexus it would be a marketing problem, not an engineering one.
10-02-19, 02:05 PM
#9
Driver School Candidate
You're right, of course. This discussion is purely academic but the marketing problem is not insurmountable. I think it would be a novel and brave direction to go to provide an option for people who hate all the new gimmicks or the nanny state or complications that break in 3 years. It's not an original idea considering the retro phase of the early 2000's but most of those attempts missed what people liked about the originals models; the T-bird being a prime example. Lexus' reputation was built on the LS's reliability, ride isolation and customer service. It survives today on its warranty. That's why the LS460's resale value has plummeted. It's nice when under warranty but it's not a viable used car especially with all the UL extras.
10-02-19, 02:07 PM
#10
Racer
Thread Starter
You're right, of course. This discussion is purely academic but the marketing problem is not insurmountable. I think it would be a novel and brave direction to go to provide an option for people who hate all the new gimmicks or the nanny state or complications that break in 3 years. It's not an original idea considering the retro phase of the early 2000's but most of those attempts missed what people liked about the originals models; the T-bird being a prime example. Lexus' reputation was built on the LS's reliability, ride isolation and customer service. It survives today on its warranty. That's why the LS460's resale value has plummeted. It's nice when under warranty but it's not a viable used car especially with all the UL extras.
10-02-19, 02:26 PM
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Driver School Candidate
True, and I don't see Lexus caring much about the secondary market, but I'm just hoping for a paradigm shift back to a more reliable, simpler design. Honestly, I just want lexus to make a car that current LS 400/430 owners would be willing to trade up to so I can get more choice in the secondary market. LOL.
10-03-19, 11:48 AM
#12
making a reliable car just doesn't make money so it won't be done! gone are days of bulletproof engineering.
lexus was entering the market when the LS400 was introduced so they had something to prove.
of course it's all about money at the end of the day.
lexus was entering the market when the LS400 was introduced so they had something to prove.
of course it's all about money at the end of the day.
10-03-19, 01:35 PM
#13
Lead Lap
You're right, of course. This discussion is purely academic but the marketing problem is not insurmountable. I think it would be a novel and brave direction to go to provide an option for people who hate all the new gimmicks or the nanny state or complications that break in 3 years. It's not an original idea considering the retro phase of the early 2000's but most of those attempts missed what people liked about the originals models; the T-bird being a prime example. Lexus' reputation was built on the LS's reliability, ride isolation and customer service. It survives today on its warranty. That's why the LS460's resale value has plummeted. It's nice when under warranty but it's not a viable used car especially with all the UL extras.
Oh, we'll take all the safety and convenience features we can get. They aren't gimmicks to us.
10-03-19, 02:39 PM
#14
Driver School Candidate
The LS460's resale value has plummeted because far fewer people want 4-door sedans. It's a matter of supply and demand. When there is low demand, prices go down. When we moved to our current house 20 years ago, each of the 10 households in it had at least one 4-door sedan. We had two sedans. My next door neighbor also had a Lexus LS sedan. Now there are only 3 sedans in the culdesac and I wouldn't bet that their replacements are going to be sedans.
Oh, we'll take all the safety and convenience features we can get. They aren't gimmicks to us.
Oh, we'll take all the safety and convenience features we can get. They aren't gimmicks to us.