______ is as ______ does

 

lmfao yeah your right about bloody Harley, trust me ..I've ridden that horse..

I agree, I order most my stuff off of Amazon and think that Genuine Toyota is obviously the clear winner. I'm even a prime member !

But.. I had a whole bunch of other stuff in the garage id bought from Walmart and took it back to the returns department and they gave me a gift card! which means I dropped my transmission fluid and put on a new gasket as the one on there was leaking, for about 12 bucks.

That makes me all fuzzy inside.

 

I'm not sharp enough to follow this one

please elaborate

 

I'm not good at English since it's not my mother tongue but I know what those words mean.
"Handsome is as handsome does."

I hope your AT's clutch doesn't slip too much soon.
The movie Forrest Gump tells the story.

 

There you go being politically correct!

 

What kind of evidence is out there to suggest it will? I haven't found a single case?

to be politically correct.

 

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...and_Lexus_ATF? bob knows his ****

 

Bob may know his **** unfortunately he has no input into the conversation (thread) you've posted.

These MaxLife discussions are becoming a tired broken record. We all know Toyota Type IV and WS are NOT compatible. Any product, Valvoline or otherwise, claiming to meet the spec of BOTH is obviously a marketing ploy. When you subscribe to the words painted on the Valvoline label but you're listening to their marketing dept. not their lab.

Pay close attention to 33:00 to 40:00 and especially 38:50 to 39:45

 

some facts and opinions to add (hopefully clear which is which):

Being exact, the spec is "Toyota Type T-IV". Not Toyota Type 4 or Toyota Type IV, for example. Definitely not Toyota WS-ATF, where the WS means "World Standard" and is a relatively new fluid, used in my Prius, for example.

EDIT - actually my '91 is spec'ed to use Toyota Type T-II, but that was later superseded to Type T-IV, which is current.

I would not worry about using MaxLife here, but do prefer the Toyota Type T-IV.

I do use the MaxLife in my Honda Odyssey(s). Those are known to have weak transmissions, and the Genuine Honda fluid (originally Z-1) was superseded to DW-1, and MaxLife has been widely accepted in that application (Odysseys) as same or better than Genuine Honda DW-1 ATF.

The Toyota Type T-IV is made by Mobil to the 3309 spec. Mobil will sell Mobil-branded 3309. Aisin builds these AT's, and when doing so, they design them to use this particular ATF = Mobil 3309. Toyota then sells Mobil-brewed 3309 in Toyota-branded bottles. Aisin also makes the AT's in many other great cars, including my Porsche Cayenne. So in that case the spec is for Porsche-branded Mobil 3309, where the Porsche brand adds about $50 per quart to the price. But I can use my Toyota Type T-IV in my Porsche Cayenne since I know it is exactly the same stuff. This Aisin / Mobil 3309 story also applies to some VW/Audi fluids for the exact same reasons.

^^^ So that story is that the fluids truly are identical Mobil 3309 <==> Toyota Type T-IV <==> Porsche $60/qt liquid gold ATF <==> VW/Audi $30/qt lesser-than-Porsche-brand-markup ATF

The MaxLife vs. Honda DW-1 vs. Toyota Type T-IV is a completely different story. In that case, the fluids are definitely not identical. Valvoline created MaxLife with the goal of having it meet the same specifications (viscosity vs. temperature, etc), or at least close enough that they will claim compatibility, sort of backing it up with a guarantee which is surely never going to be successfully claimed.

In general, these Aisin ATs are excellent, durable, and probably not going to fail by using a slightly off-spec fluid. Whether you want to take that chance vs. the convenience (e.g., the gallon jugs, and the ability to use the same ATF in multiple cars in your fleet) and slight cost savings ...

 

We've been through this discussion in previous threads. If the "compatible" does it for you or the Toyota Type IV, it's your $ to spend on maintenance. My closing suggestion would be to have the ATF analyzed to determine how well the additive package is working in that particular car and maintain as necessary.