Finally going to drop the car
#1
Finally going to drop the car
I have got mutliple question involving the LS400 since alot of people have lowered it...
First off... I have KYB on my car right now with stock springs and was thinking of going with H&R instead of Eibach, because I heard its a better combination..
Second, what is the deal with teh wheel camber being off and the tires falling out slightly? I heard I need a camber (sp?) kit to fix this problem, but since I am an everyday driver.. I will need to buy tires every 6 months becasue the whole lowering thing will kill my tire life..
Am I wrong here? I need major help and advice from all those who have lowered their LS's
First off... I have KYB on my car right now with stock springs and was thinking of going with H&R instead of Eibach, because I heard its a better combination..
Second, what is the deal with teh wheel camber being off and the tires falling out slightly? I heard I need a camber (sp?) kit to fix this problem, but since I am an everyday driver.. I will need to buy tires every 6 months becasue the whole lowering thing will kill my tire life..
Am I wrong here? I need major help and advice from all those who have lowered their LS's
#2
Yeah, I've head from a couple people that H&R's are a 'lil better...they're certainly more expensive than Eibachs.
If you're lowering your car with just springs, it's going to cause a little negative camber, but it shouldn't be anything a wheel alignment won't fix. Actually, the only thing you can do to try to fix negative camber issues is a wheel alignment, since there aren't any camber kits available (that I know of) for the 1st gen LS. A 'lil negative camber won't hurt as much, but should give you some better handling around corners. My LS is lowered on coilovers right now and my wheels are slightly butterflied, I'm thinking about taking it to the shop to get the wheels aligned soon...I'll let you know if there's any change in camber as soon as I get it done.
If you're lowering your car with just springs, it's going to cause a little negative camber, but it shouldn't be anything a wheel alignment won't fix. Actually, the only thing you can do to try to fix negative camber issues is a wheel alignment, since there aren't any camber kits available (that I know of) for the 1st gen LS. A 'lil negative camber won't hurt as much, but should give you some better handling around corners. My LS is lowered on coilovers right now and my wheels are slightly butterflied, I'm thinking about taking it to the shop to get the wheels aligned soon...I'll let you know if there's any change in camber as soon as I get it done.
#3
Like B said, there is no camber kit for LS400. The good news is the camber problem can be fix by just doing the alignment(H&R or Eibach only.) My 93 LS is running on H&R with KYB and my cambers are fine except the left rear which I think the suspension is bent and the shop couldn't bring the camber within the specs.
#5
With a conservative 1" drop, you should not have much problem with negative camber. The UCF20/21 have camber adjustment, I just don't know how much. On the UCF10/11?
On a past Toyota, I had -1/2 up front and -3 in the rear, best tire lasted me 28K but I typically was in for tires every 10-12K and that was with a remount to swap left to right on directional tires. At about 6K miles, you can see the effects. On a softer compound typical of the hi-po low profiles, it can be gone in a matter of months depending how you drive.
A car that handles begs to be driven though.
On a past Toyota, I had -1/2 up front and -3 in the rear, best tire lasted me 28K but I typically was in for tires every 10-12K and that was with a remount to swap left to right on directional tires. At about 6K miles, you can see the effects. On a softer compound typical of the hi-po low profiles, it can be gone in a matter of months depending how you drive.
A car that handles begs to be driven though.
#7
well i got one of those 3 year alignment packages with express tire...
so if i go in every month or so and get my tires rotated and suspension aligneed.. I should expect normal tire wear correct?
I just dont want to spend money oin springs and get the shaft every 6 months for tires
so if i go in every month or so and get my tires rotated and suspension aligneed.. I should expect normal tire wear correct?
I just dont want to spend money oin springs and get the shaft every 6 months for tires
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#8
Originally posted by Rhabryn
dosnt the LS400 come stock with a front camber correction kit? i know that sounds odd, but i lowered mine and a friend of mine just worked on it for a little bit and had the camber perfect.
dosnt the LS400 come stock with a front camber correction kit? i know that sounds odd, but i lowered mine and a friend of mine just worked on it for a little bit and had the camber perfect.
#9
Originally posted by persian451
well i got one of those 3 year alignment packages with express tire...
so if i go in every month or so and get my tires rotated and suspension aligneed.. I should expect normal tire wear correct?
I just dont want to spend money oin springs and get the shaft every 6 months for tires
well i got one of those 3 year alignment packages with express tire...
so if i go in every month or so and get my tires rotated and suspension aligneed.. I should expect normal tire wear correct?
I just dont want to spend money oin springs and get the shaft every 6 months for tires
Depends on the way you drive, if you drive very carefully and avoid as mamy potholes as you can,don't hit any curbs then you'll only need to do alignment once every 6 months to a year.
#10
well i shouldnt have a problem with that then.. I aint that crazy of a driver.. after all it is a flagship :-)
But Lonely.... how is the KYB and H&R setup? Many people claim with other vehicle who have the same setup, say the car tends to bounce alot and your butt will get numb eventually
But Lonely.... how is the KYB and H&R setup? Many people claim with other vehicle who have the same setup, say the car tends to bounce alot and your butt will get numb eventually
#14
Just got back from a suspension shop for a second opinion about my suspension:
Problems:
Lower Ball Joints need replacement
Upper Ball Joints need replacement
Parts:
Lower Ball Joints: $ 116.94 x 2
Upper Ball Joints: $ 414.40 x 2
Labor:
Lower Ball Joints: $ 140.00
Upper Ball Joints: $ 294.00
I guess the mechanic suggested not to get Polyurethane bushings because they are way too stiff and tend to squeek no matter what you do to them
Also the upper ball joints he said he has to replace the entire control arm because they dont make seperate upper ball joints, however they do for the lower
Does this estimate seem right?
Problems:
Lower Ball Joints need replacement
Upper Ball Joints need replacement
Parts:
Lower Ball Joints: $ 116.94 x 2
Upper Ball Joints: $ 414.40 x 2
Labor:
Lower Ball Joints: $ 140.00
Upper Ball Joints: $ 294.00
I guess the mechanic suggested not to get Polyurethane bushings because they are way too stiff and tend to squeek no matter what you do to them
Also the upper ball joints he said he has to replace the entire control arm because they dont make seperate upper ball joints, however they do for the lower
Does this estimate seem right?