Should I Do A Crazy Swap?
#1
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Should I Do A Crazy Swap?
I love my little creampuff, "Alexus2" yes I do.
but ...
I love ultimate complexity and all the options, too.
Some here have seen my '91 that I bought at 57,000 miles. Well, now it has 92,675 and it still presents as a perfect example, everything works, no leaks, blahblahblah.
Should I trade in for a '92 LS400 with air suspension and a Nakamichi CD and TRAC and all the other bells and whistles? Can I live with blue instead of brown and no more chrome wheels?
but ...
I love ultimate complexity and all the options, too.
Some here have seen my '91 that I bought at 57,000 miles. Well, now it has 92,675 and it still presents as a perfect example, everything works, no leaks, blahblahblah.
Should I trade in for a '92 LS400 with air suspension and a Nakamichi CD and TRAC and all the other bells and whistles? Can I live with blue instead of brown and no more chrome wheels?
#2
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I wouldn’t do it. I wouldn’t even consider it.
#3
If you want better audio, I recommend putting a system in. You get bluetooth with it which is such a quality of life perk. I'm extremely happy with mine (head unit & replaced all speakers). It sounds on-par with some of the higher-end systems you find in modern luxury cars; where the Nakamichi system, while premium, is 25+ years old and the speakers will be tired and not operating like new.
I wouldn't trade for air suspension. More complex, aging, expensive to fix, difficult to find parts. You have a car now that you know, you know the problems, you know what's been done. I wouldn't trade it for a potential Pandora's box. If you were trading your 91' for a UCF20 car (especially a 97' or newer), that may be a different story. Updated styling, better transmission, more power, no ECU capacitors to worry about.
I wouldn't trade for air suspension. More complex, aging, expensive to fix, difficult to find parts. You have a car now that you know, you know the problems, you know what's been done. I wouldn't trade it for a potential Pandora's box. If you were trading your 91' for a UCF20 car (especially a 97' or newer), that may be a different story. Updated styling, better transmission, more power, no ECU capacitors to worry about.
Last edited by 400fanboy; 10-21-20 at 06:46 PM.
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Leximum (10-26-20)
#4
The brown with chrome rims on yours looks incredible - Very classic
I would not trade, especially since the blue car has 20k miles more, has more complex options, and you know the maintenance history on yours for at least the last 30k miles. I also understand that the Nakamichi system is harder to service, and there's dwindling support for the system.
The only real plus to trading that I can see would be having traction control.
Unfortunately, they're still a worry. They're just not as old yet
I would not trade, especially since the blue car has 20k miles more, has more complex options, and you know the maintenance history on yours for at least the last 30k miles. I also understand that the Nakamichi system is harder to service, and there's dwindling support for the system.
The only real plus to trading that I can see would be having traction control.
Unfortunately, they're still a worry. They're just not as old yet
#5
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According to LScowboyLS, it's just more common in from 1990-1997. I would still check 1998-2000, since electrolytic capacitors dry up over time. I suppose it's just a better brand or the circuit is better designed to put less strain on the caps.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...capacitor.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...capacitor.html
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400fanboy (10-22-20)
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If I had the space/money I'd buy that one to add to my collection Those 1st gen air suspension models are so cool. I almost bought one once, a 1990 with air suspension but the engine was leaking from pretty much everywhere and it needed suspension work so I ran.
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Well ... I feel like a three year-old, "but I want it, I WANT it," I love the horrificness of the complexity, but I do not want to be stymied by something as annoying as NLA parts.
Just in passing, if I kept my current car as back-up, to give the new car a chance to settle in with me, what do you suppose I could get for whichever one I then choose to get rid of?
The dealer wants $6,950.00 @ 115,000 miles for the blue air-suspension car. I can work that down.
I paid $6,800.00/$366.00 airfare/$235.00 gas expense back to Pensacola for Alexus2 in 2017.
Seriously, I have no need for a different car, but doing something screwy is well within my wheelhouse.
Colin
Just in passing, if I kept my current car as back-up, to give the new car a chance to settle in with me, what do you suppose I could get for whichever one I then choose to get rid of?
The dealer wants $6,950.00 @ 115,000 miles for the blue air-suspension car. I can work that down.
I paid $6,800.00/$366.00 airfare/$235.00 gas expense back to Pensacola for Alexus2 in 2017.
Seriously, I have no need for a different car, but doing something screwy is well within my wheelhouse.
Colin
#11
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You asked, we answered. It’s your decision in the end. Whatever you do, don’t put yourself in a position where you’ll feel regret one way or the other.
#12
You could probably safely get between $6k - $10k or more for your car on a site like BringATrailer with the full service history, considering the condition of the car, and if you put the original horn back on. More or less the same for the blue one, IF you advertise it as a fully optioned car with everything working. The mileage will hurt the value on that one for an enthusiast, but not tremendously in my opinion.
So, completely up to you
So, completely up to you
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Amskeptic (10-23-20)
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https://bringatrailer.com/lexus/ls-sedan/
Seem to be two tranches of cars. 20-50k mile collector condition cars, those are going in the 20's. Then you have higher mile cars that have been drivers, but are still in excellent shape, those seem to be clustered a lot around 10k. Usually 70-120k miles. This is probably where the cars OP has will sit. I feel confident that, assuming they are mechanically good shape and you have full service records, they would bring that number.
I haven't paid attention to higher mile examples (150k+) since they don't list on bringatrailer. Cars and bids (Doug Demuro's site) seems to have this tranche with many cars trading below 10k.
Seem to be two tranches of cars. 20-50k mile collector condition cars, those are going in the 20's. Then you have higher mile cars that have been drivers, but are still in excellent shape, those seem to be clustered a lot around 10k. Usually 70-120k miles. This is probably where the cars OP has will sit. I feel confident that, assuming they are mechanically good shape and you have full service records, they would bring that number.
I haven't paid attention to higher mile examples (150k+) since they don't list on bringatrailer. Cars and bids (Doug Demuro's site) seems to have this tranche with many cars trading below 10k.
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