P1127 - ETCS Actuator Power Source Circuit Malfunction
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P1127 - ETCS Actuator Power Source Circuit Malfunction
I just recapped my ECU per the instructions in the pinned thread. Checked and double checked after I finished. I pulled one pad and a bit of trace, but I soldered a wire in its place and verified connectivity with my multimeter.
I reinstalled the ECU, plugged the battery back in and start it up. It's smooth and fine for about 5 seconds and then CHECK VSC pops up and the engine starts to sound like its timing has gone to ****. Pulled the code and got P1127. The gas pedal no longer works (which makes sense given the failure).
I assume I botched something in the ECU now. Unless there's a possibility that a fuse has gone bad or something. I tried checking the ETCS fuse in the engine bay but couldn't get its over off. I'll try again though.
If anyone has any other ideas or has encountered this, please lemme know.
I reinstalled the ECU, plugged the battery back in and start it up. It's smooth and fine for about 5 seconds and then CHECK VSC pops up and the engine starts to sound like its timing has gone to ****. Pulled the code and got P1127. The gas pedal no longer works (which makes sense given the failure).
I assume I botched something in the ECU now. Unless there's a possibility that a fuse has gone bad or something. I tried checking the ETCS fuse in the engine bay but couldn't get its over off. I'll try again though.
If anyone has any other ideas or has encountered this, please lemme know.
#2
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I just recapped my ECU per the instructions in the pinned thread. Checked and double checked after I finished. I pulled one pad and a bit of trace, but I soldered a wire in its place and verified connectivity with my multimeter.
I reinstalled the ECU, plugged the battery back in and start it up. It's smooth and fine for about 5 seconds and then CHECK VSC pops up and the engine starts to sound like its timing has gone to ****. Pulled the code and got P1127. The gas pedal no longer works (which makes sense given the failure).
I assume I botched something in the ECU now. Unless there's a possibility that a fuse has gone bad or something. I tried checking the ETCS fuse in the engine bay but couldn't get its over off. I'll try again though.
If anyone has any other ideas or has encountered this, please lemme know.
I reinstalled the ECU, plugged the battery back in and start it up. It's smooth and fine for about 5 seconds and then CHECK VSC pops up and the engine starts to sound like its timing has gone to ****. Pulled the code and got P1127. The gas pedal no longer works (which makes sense given the failure).
I assume I botched something in the ECU now. Unless there's a possibility that a fuse has gone bad or something. I tried checking the ETCS fuse in the engine bay but couldn't get its over off. I'll try again though.
If anyone has any other ideas or has encountered this, please lemme know.
Were you wearing a grounded wrist strap?
Wearing anything polyester (generates static cling charge)?
A Lexus wiring diagram should help determine which ECU pins trace to related circuit components.
Multilayer circuit boards add complexity when a pad lifts...
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Your words, "It's smooth and fine for about 5 seconds and then CHECK VSC pops up and the engine starts to sound like its timing has gone to ****. Pulled the code and got P1127. The gas pedal no longer works" remind me of the power supply circuit failed quickly after started. Did you mount capacitors correctly? Are there any reversed ones? I also worry about harnesses are partially damaged.
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Would be worth engaging an electronics technician to check circuit traces for continuity around the work areas.
Were you wearing a grounded wrist strap?
Wearing anything polyester (generates static cling charge)?
A Lexus wiring diagram should help determine which ECU pins trace to related circuit components.
Multilayer circuit boards add complexity when a pad lifts...
Were you wearing a grounded wrist strap?
Wearing anything polyester (generates static cling charge)?
A Lexus wiring diagram should help determine which ECU pins trace to related circuit components.
Multilayer circuit boards add complexity when a pad lifts...
I would love to find a wiring diagram for the ECM but I haven't come across one. Do you know where I could find one?
Your words, "It's smooth and fine for about 5 seconds and then CHECK VSC pops up and the engine starts to sound like its timing has gone to ****. Pulled the code and got P1127. The gas pedal no longer works" remind me of the power supply circuit failed quickly after started. Did you mount capacitors correctly? Are there any reversed ones? I also worry about harnesses are partially damaged.
What I mean about "it's smooth and then CHECK VSC lights up" - It's almost as if the electronic throttle is locked out for a few seconds on startup. Then it seems like it engages but errors out and sounds bad. The gas pedal doesn't work even during that first 5 seconds.
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Can you identify the ECU's connector A? And can you identify pin#7 and #8?
Check the resistance between pin#7 and #8 of connector A (A コネクター, located at the left edge) both at the harness side and ECU's pin side. I'll give you an additional idea after you report back.
Check the resistance between pin#7 and #8 of connector A (A コネクター, located at the left edge) both at the harness side and ECU's pin side. I'll give you an additional idea after you report back.
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On the bare ECU #7 and #8 read as 0 ohms.
For the harness - should the ecu be attached? should the car battery be installed? should the ignition be in any specific position?
For the harness - should the ecu be attached? should the car battery be installed? should the ignition be in any specific position?
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Completely 0.0 ohm?
There should be some resistance. Could you measure it again a bit more precisely reading at least 2 digits like 0.8 ohm?
The method is to remove the connector and measure the resistance both at the male and female side when the power is not applied.
There should be some resistance. Could you measure it again a bit more precisely reading at least 2 digits like 0.8 ohm?
The method is to remove the connector and measure the resistance both at the male and female side when the power is not applied.
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Thanks for measuring again. The value 1.63 ohms means that the throttle motor is connected and the winding seems fine.
But the ECU side "OL" is strange. There should be at least some resistance since there is a winding sensing circuit connected. I worry that the line is open and not connected to the sensing circuit and the drive circuit. When you did the capacitors replacement job, you must have damaged something related to the throttle motor driving circuit. I'll check lines on the board connected pin#7 and #8 carefully.
But the ECU side "OL" is strange. There should be at least some resistance since there is a winding sensing circuit connected. I worry that the line is open and not connected to the sensing circuit and the drive circuit. When you did the capacitors replacement job, you must have damaged something related to the throttle motor driving circuit. I'll check lines on the board connected pin#7 and #8 carefully.
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Relevant electrical wiring diagrams
From there you follow the circuit board traces.
Not sure how th hat helps on a multilayer PCB.
Obtain a factory wiring diagram for your year LS400.
Lexus published LS400 wiring diagram manuals.
Are you adverse to asking a tech to check your work?
Last edited by YODAONE; 01-16-21 at 09:12 PM.
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Thank you very much! I couldn't even find one of these to buy while googling last night. The connectors are labeled differently from Yamae's post, which is odd, but I see they are still the same pins.
Is there a circuit diagram in the book for the ECM?
I don't have any issue with someone checking my work, but I don't know who that is. Would I take it to Lexus?
On the plus side, the diagrams you uploaded, YODAONE have let me check that there's some resistance across the other two pins that control the throttle clutch.
Is there a circuit diagram in the book for the ECM?
I don't have any issue with someone checking my work, but I don't know who that is. Would I take it to Lexus?
On the plus side, the diagrams you uploaded, YODAONE have let me check that there's some resistance across the other two pins that control the throttle clutch.
Last edited by Einzelherz; 01-17-21 at 05:35 AM.
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And to Yamae's post. I just realized that 0L means Over Limit. After cleaning up some of the flux and mess I'm now getting 190-200 M ohms sometimes, 170 M ohms other times and 140 M ohms other times. I suspect that's not good.
Last edited by Einzelherz; 01-17-21 at 07:05 AM.