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Old 11-20-21, 10:13 AM
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Default toyota 90915-yzzg1 filters

I have been using the same Mobil 1 oil filters on my 2004 sienna as on my 96 ls400. So the threads appear to be the same. Can I also use a Toyota Sienna filter on my LS400? I just got a set of them for free. Thanks in advance.
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This thread we discuss other filters:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...on-our-ls.html
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Originally Posted by ajahearn
I have been using the same Mobil 1 oil filters on my 2004 sienna as on my 96 ls400. So the threads appear to be the same. Can I also use a Toyota Sienna filter on my LS400? I just got a set of them for free. Thanks in advance.
How about posting side-by-side images of your filter next to OEM.90915-YZZD3.
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Default Toyota Filter Chart by Model/Year

Numerous posts on alternate oil filters...most discussed are random brands with less certain quality

Model/year Toyota oil.filter chart below.

90915-YZZG1 is shown on 4 and 6 cylinder engines..

However, located 90915-YZZG2 came up online, which appears longer..




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Both Wix and Denso filters for LS400 show cross-reference to BOTH YZZG1 and YZZD3.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...t=5340&jsn=457
https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...t=5340&jsn=452
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Thanks for all the info Next time I go to change the filter I will take a detailed look.
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I use the Motorcraft FL-400S on my 1991. Much bigger than the recommended OEM filter

Some more info here, if you're looking into other options -

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...on-our-ls.html

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Originally Posted by CELSI0R
I use the Motorcraft FL-400S on my 1991. Much bigger than the recommended OEM filter

Some more info here, if you're looking into other options -

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...on-our-ls.html

Does the Motorcraft oil filter accept same oil filter end cap wrench (vs universal filter strap wrench ) as OEM Toyota filter?




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Default A Better Oil Filter Than Denso?

Originally Posted by CELSI0R
I use the Motorcraft FL-400S on my 1991. Much bigger than the recommended OEM filter

Some more info here, if you're looking into other options -

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/ls-...on-our-ls.html

Compared 90915-YZZD3 to
Motorcraft FL-400S,
K & N HP-2009 and
Mobil M1-209A
filters listed in the "size matters" link while visiting local Auto parts store.

All use a flat rubber gasket that appears tucked into the filter.
THIS is a BAD design and a disqualifying factor (from my perspective) because it can loosen, shift or distort and leak oil.

The 90915-YZZD3 nestles an o-ring (or insert molds a rubber seal?) into what appears to be a circular recess that allows uniform compression without distorting and or tearing....important.

None employed a filter cover seal as does the 90915-YZZD3.
None was prelubricated as was the 90915-YZZD3.

Important details...and probably many others not apparent


When I first purchased my LS400, it had a Wix filter that was dripping from the gasket..

All use 15 flute filter cap wrench vs 90915-YZZD3 14 flute cap wrench.

Motorcraft FL-400S is the same height as 90915-YZZD3...
Mobil 1 M1-209A and K & N HP-2009A are much taller.


The bigger is better list

Side-by-side image of K & N, Mobil 1, Denso amd Motorcraft oil filters...

Underside of the four brands. Count the number of inlet holes. Denso filter employs a flat bottom, while the other brands employ wine bottle bottom style. I like the oblong holes of Motorcraft filter over round holes of others.

AST Tool oil filter cap wrench is cast and not stamped or deep-drawn...fits like a glove.

As you see from the screenshot of the list of oil filters from "Size matters", it is a 17 page post.

Toyota probably offer a taller filter that will work in place of the
90915-YZZD3.

While I like taller K& N (expen$ive) and Mobil 1 filter, am focusing on a Denso brand filter due to better engineered filter seal.

Not interested in just adding a larger capacity filter for the sake of doing so, but because I believe it will improve flow, and perhaps reduce pumping losses, especially on cold start.

So, anyone with a taller Denso filter solution?

Thank you.









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This may have been posted in the other thread though I cannot recall ATM.
This is the cross reference for the old 90915 20004 Denso filter:
https://www.oilfilter-crossreference...TA/90915-20004

The Denso listed there are
  • DENSO 115010-2191
  • DENSO 115310-0261
  • DENSO 150-1002
  • DENSO 150-1003
  • DENSO 150-2010
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Originally Posted by YODAONE
Compared 90915-YZZD3 to
Motorcraft FL-400S,
K & N HP-2009 and
Mobil M1-209A
filters listed in the "size matters" link while visiting local Auto parts store.

All use a flat rubber gasket that appears tucked into the filter.
THIS is a BAD design and a disqualifying factor (from my perspective) because it can loosen, shift or distort and leak oil.

The 90915-YZZD3 nestles an o-ring (or insert molds a rubber seal?) into what appears to be a circular recess that allows uniform compression without distorting and or tearing....important.

None employed a filter cover seal as does the 90915-YZZD3.
None was prelubricated as was the 90915-YZZD3.

Importsnt details...and probably many others not apparent


When I first purchased my LS400, it had a Wix filter that was dripping from the gasket..

All use 15 flute filter cap wrench vs 90915-YZZD3 14 flute cap wrench.

As you see from the screenshot of the list of oil filters from "Size matters", it is a 17 page post.

Toyota probably offer a taller filter that will work in place of the
90915-YZZD3.

While I like the taller K& N (expen$ive) and Mobil 1 filter, am focusing on a Denso brand filter due to better engineered filter seal.

Not interested in just adding a larger capacity filter for the sake of doing so, but because I believe it will improve flow, and perhaps reduce pumping losses, especially on cold start.

So, anyone with a tallerbDenso filter solution?

Thank you.
Cool comparison. Thanks for the post

I may consider the Denso filter in the future with the seal design given these notes.

I have been using the Motorcraft filter every year for the past 10 years and have not had an issue with leaking. I do lubricate the seal before installing it

You probably saw in the store, but to answer your earlier question - the AST adapter for the Toyota filter does not work on the Motorcraft filter
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Originally Posted by RA40
This may have been posted in the other thread though I cannot recall ATM.
This is the cross reference for the old 90915 20004 Denso filter:
https://www.oilfilter-crossreference...TA/90915-20004

The Denso listed there are
  • DENSO 115010-2191
  • DENSO 115310-0261
  • DENSO 150-1002
  • DENSO 150-1003
  • DENSO 150-2010
These filters appear visually shorter (online) than 90915-YZZD3.

Denso site provides the filter seal is 64mm I.D. and 70mm O.D. with .750 thread.

Perhaps Denso offers taller filters similar to
K & N or Mobil 1 with anti-drainback valve and OEM filter media.

No sense using a bigger filter if lower quality filter media or no (silicone) anti-drainback valve.


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Some additional discussion from an older Tundra forum thread:
https://www.tundrasolutions.com/thre...-to-use.17668/
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Default COMPARISON BETWEEN 90915- YZZD1 and - YZZD3

Located a comparison between YZZD1 and YZZD3:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...l#&gid=1&pid=8

Some excerpts:

Toyota 90915-YZZD1 - diameter: 2.92"; height: 3.38"; volume: .392 quart; media area: 160 sq in $6.- Used for Toyota V6 engine

Toyota 90915-YZZD3 - diameter: 2.92"; height: ~4.1"; volume: .476 quart; media area: 203 sq in $4.- Used for Toyota V8 engine.

90915-YZZD3 vs 90915-YZZD1: Volume +20% ;Media area +26%


Anyone providing links containing Toyota or Denso filter part numbers willing to chase down specifications?

Have not located alternate brand(s) offering Denso o-ring style seal.

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Just to follow thru here - bear in mind that I was trying to cheap out - not to be better about engine maintenance - still I change the oil every 5k. A visual (ONLY) comparison of the YZZG1 to a Mobil 1 102A filter shows: similarities are the same height, and have the same mounting threads. Differences are G1 has 7 openings which are oval and wider than the Mobil which has 8 round openings, G1 is much lighter in weight than the Mobil, and the mounting ring is round on the G1 whereas it is flat on the Mobil. As I had already bought the Mobil filter I went ahead and used it anyway. There is a substantial cost difference for me as I paid about $1 for each of the G1s and $16 for the Mobil 1 filter so next time I will likely go with the cheapo filter. Thanks for all the assistance here.


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