Who has the most mileage on their LS400? (The Mother Thread)
10-14-11, 05:07 AM
#526
Just thought I would post this so you can brag to your greenie friends
There was a report published where a group attempted to calculate the cost per mile for a variety of vehicles. The idea was to consider all of the energy costs associated with the vehicle over it’s entire lifetime and divide that number by the number of miles the vehicle would probably be driven. This roughly translates into the environmental impact of each vehicle because all modern methods of consuming energy involve some type of waste in the environment. The higher the total energy cost over the life of a vehicle, the higher impact it will have on the environment.
Cars like a Rolls Royce, Bentley and Maybach cost somewhere a little above $10 per mile to drive. Here is a list of the hybrid vehicles:
1.Honda Insight ($2.94 per mile)
2. Ford Escape Hybrid ($3.18 per mile)
3.Honda Civic Hybrid ($3.24 per mile)
4.Toyota Prius ($3.25 per mile)
5.Honda Accord Hybrid ($3.30 per mile)
Here are the top 10 least expensive cars from a total energy consumed perspective. (Note: This is energy cost, not purchase price.):
1.Scion xB ($0.48 per mile)
2.Ford Escort (0.57 per mile)
3.Jeep Wrangler ($0.60 per mile)
4.Chevrolet Tracker ($0.69 per mile)
5.Toyota Echo ($0.70 per mile)
6.Saturn Ion ($0.71 per mile)
7.Hyundai Elantra ($0.72 per mile)
8.Dodge Neon ($0.73 per mile)
9.Toyota Corolla ($0.73 per mile)
10.Scion xA ($0.74 per mile)
I was pretty surprised to see Jeep Wrangler on the list. However I think it is showing up not because of its great gas mileage but because the average lifespan of a Wrangler is 207,000 miles, while the average vehicle is only driven for 178,000 miles. This is inline with my previous statement that the longer you can keep a car running the smaller your total footprint. The Hummer H3 was an interesting surprise at $1.949 per mile. That is still a pretty expensive vehicle in terms of the amount of energy used, but it still beats every one of the hybrids.
There has been some criticism of this report saying that hybrid vehicles can be driven for many more miles than what was used in the calculation (100,000 to 150,000 depending on the model). So lets assume that somehow the hybrids last twice as long as they estimated. So here is the revised list:
1.Honda Insight ($1.47 per mile)
2. Ford Escape Hybrid ($1.59 per mile)
3.Honda Civic Hybrid ($1.62 per mile)
4.Toyota Prius ($1.62 per mile)
5.Honda Accord Hybrid ($1.65 per mile)
Notice that the hybrids still use twice as much energy per drivable mile than any of the top 10 vehicles. So if someone wants to choose a vehicle based on environmental considerations, buying a hybrid causes twice as much environmental damage as any one of 10 other choices that are not hybrids.
http://www.productivity501.com/cost-...revisited/219/
On a side note. You guys with a lexus that has 500K miles are "saving the environment" more so than any greenie out there with a 70MPG car that is new
There was a report published where a group attempted to calculate the cost per mile for a variety of vehicles. The idea was to consider all of the energy costs associated with the vehicle over it’s entire lifetime and divide that number by the number of miles the vehicle would probably be driven. This roughly translates into the environmental impact of each vehicle because all modern methods of consuming energy involve some type of waste in the environment. The higher the total energy cost over the life of a vehicle, the higher impact it will have on the environment.
Cars like a Rolls Royce, Bentley and Maybach cost somewhere a little above $10 per mile to drive. Here is a list of the hybrid vehicles:
1.Honda Insight ($2.94 per mile)
2. Ford Escape Hybrid ($3.18 per mile)
3.Honda Civic Hybrid ($3.24 per mile)
4.Toyota Prius ($3.25 per mile)
5.Honda Accord Hybrid ($3.30 per mile)
Here are the top 10 least expensive cars from a total energy consumed perspective. (Note: This is energy cost, not purchase price.):
1.Scion xB ($0.48 per mile)
2.Ford Escort (0.57 per mile)
3.Jeep Wrangler ($0.60 per mile)
4.Chevrolet Tracker ($0.69 per mile)
5.Toyota Echo ($0.70 per mile)
6.Saturn Ion ($0.71 per mile)
7.Hyundai Elantra ($0.72 per mile)
8.Dodge Neon ($0.73 per mile)
9.Toyota Corolla ($0.73 per mile)
10.Scion xA ($0.74 per mile)
I was pretty surprised to see Jeep Wrangler on the list. However I think it is showing up not because of its great gas mileage but because the average lifespan of a Wrangler is 207,000 miles, while the average vehicle is only driven for 178,000 miles. This is inline with my previous statement that the longer you can keep a car running the smaller your total footprint. The Hummer H3 was an interesting surprise at $1.949 per mile. That is still a pretty expensive vehicle in terms of the amount of energy used, but it still beats every one of the hybrids.
There has been some criticism of this report saying that hybrid vehicles can be driven for many more miles than what was used in the calculation (100,000 to 150,000 depending on the model). So lets assume that somehow the hybrids last twice as long as they estimated. So here is the revised list:
1.Honda Insight ($1.47 per mile)
2. Ford Escape Hybrid ($1.59 per mile)
3.Honda Civic Hybrid ($1.62 per mile)
4.Toyota Prius ($1.62 per mile)
5.Honda Accord Hybrid ($1.65 per mile)
Notice that the hybrids still use twice as much energy per drivable mile than any of the top 10 vehicles. So if someone wants to choose a vehicle based on environmental considerations, buying a hybrid causes twice as much environmental damage as any one of 10 other choices that are not hybrids.
http://www.productivity501.com/cost-...revisited/219/
On a side note. You guys with a lexus that has 500K miles are "saving the environment" more so than any greenie out there with a 70MPG car that is new
10-24-11, 05:14 PM
#532
Driver School Candidate
Picked up my '91 with 287 K Mi on the odometer last March. Since then put on another 7K. I have gone with a Strutmasters air suspension conversion kit ($400 for all four on Fleabay). Rides like new.
10-24-11, 06:24 PM
#533
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Mileage
Hello all. I'm new to Club Lexus. A fellow Lexus owner told me about the site and I decided to give it a spin. So far I like what I see. My 1993 Lexus LS has 235,000. I thought that was a lot. I just met a man who has 400,000 on his car and engine is still running smooth.
10-31-11, 02:36 AM
#535
Intermediate
I'm 50, and the way i feel at the moment, i want to keep my '98 LS until i'm too old to drive.... The only car that ive driven that i like more is the IS-F, and i can't possibly own one of them as i would be caught and sent to jail before i got home... i wouldn't last 5 minutes... I'm just not mature enough to own one... probably never will be. . . . : (
