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Old 07-13-22, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
You mean cranks but doesn't start, the engine turns.
Yea that’s what I mean and what I’ve said in the beginning of the thread.
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Originally Posted by HTXLS400
Well my car won’t start, but I’m saying that it doesn’t come on with all the rest of the lights on the dash, and it also won’t come on when checking for codes. I took one bulb from a working light next to it and plugged it in but still no luck!

Oh yea and he works any motherboard repair but he didn’t hook it up to anything jus visually checked the caps. Maybe it’s good to send my ecu off anyways just so I don’t have to worry in the future.
Ya can't tell if the ECU is bad just by looking at the caps. If the board looks good (with no caps leaking) it's a VERY good time to get it rebuilt, before the caps leak. Did you read (at least the beginning) the ECU thread I posted?
When I thought I had a fuel pump problem (recently) I was also doing other work. When I pulled the plugs out after cranking the car they were wet so I knew the fuel pump was working. Then I decided to try some starting fluid sprayed in the throttle body and the car did NOT start. So I knew it wasn't a fuel problem. I still think you have an ECU problem.
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Originally Posted by deanshark
Ya can't tell if the ECU is bad just by looking at the caps. If the board looks good (with no caps leaking) it's a VERY good time to get it rebuilt, before the caps leak. Did you read (at least the beginning) the ECU thread I posted?
When I thought I had a fuel pump problem (recently) I was also doing other work. When I pulled the plugs out after cranking the car they were wet so I knew the fuel pump was working. Then I decided to try some starting fluid sprayed in the throttle body and the car did NOT start. So I knew it wasn't a fuel problem. I still think you have an ECU problem.
Yes I’ve read the thread prior to signing up and asking for help! I tried using to carb cleaner today and see if it would start but it wouldn’t but I sprayed from to intake after the maf. I think it might be an ecu thing as well. I don’t know if the sunroof has anything to do with giving clues but sometimes it won’t angle up and it also doesn’t close fully when it’s being used in the traditional back and forth manner. It’ll start closing but will stop about 4 inches away and then I’ll have to let go and trigger it again for it to fully close. I messaged LsCowboy on Facebook, hopefully he can still do something!
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Originally Posted by HTXLS400
Yes I’ve read the thread prior to signing up and asking for help! I tried using to carb cleaner today and see if it would start but it wouldn’t but I sprayed from to intake after the maf. I think it might be an ecu thing as well. I don’t know if the sunroof has anything to do with giving clues but sometimes it won’t angle up and it also doesn’t close fully when it’s being used in the traditional back and forth manner. It’ll start closing but will stop about 4 inches away and then I’ll have to let go and trigger it again for it to fully close. I messaged LsCowboy on Facebook, hopefully he can still do something!
My sunroof was like that on my 94. I don't remember on my old 93 and the 93 I have now is way screwed up. (fix from the dealer) Previous owner had a problem with the switch so the dealer just wired up the tilt along with the open. I only used it once but I think it's push closed all the way and then push close again for the tilt to open. That's one thing I'm leaving alone on this car. I finally got it to where it doesn't leak.
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Well the new ecu didn’t work, any more suggestions? Wondering why the b+ to fp didn’t work and where it could lead me to look.
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I would confirm that there are actual terminals in the B+ and FP and not just plastic spaces, they started taking those out in some cars pretty early in DLC1 and I'm not sure if they are in DCL2 under the dash. I will look when I get home.

You might have to use a jumper in the circuit opening relay but I don't have a schematic for that, I'm sure there's one on this site somewhere.
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Originally Posted by HTXLS400
Well the new ecu didn’t work, any more suggestions? Wondering why the b+ to fp didn’t work and where it could lead me to look.
I don't have a 1990 schematic so the following is in general terms.

Do you know how to test relays? Remove the from the fuse/relay box one at a time and test them to see if they function.
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Looks like you could just swap relays in you underhood fuse box, if it's the same....


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OPN is it. Be careful there is a lock clip on those relays, they are tight and brittle from age.
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Originally Posted by paulo57509
I don't have a 1990 schematic so the following is in general terms.

Do you know how to test relays? Remove the from the fuse/relay box one at a time and test them to see if they function.
No not necessarily, only thing I do with fuses is check to see if their blown
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Originally Posted by Gerf
I would confirm that there are actual terminals in the B+ and FP and not just plastic spaces, they started taking those out in some cars pretty early in DLC1 and I'm not sure if they are in DCL2 under the dash. I will look when I get home.

You might have to use a jumper in the circuit opening relay but I don't have a schematic for that, I'm sure there's one on this site somewhere.
mine have metal prongs in em




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Does anyone know what this is?
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Originally Posted by Gerf
Looks like you could just swap relays in you underhood fuse box, if it's the same....


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OPN is it. Be careful there is a lock clip on those relays, they are tight and brittle from age.

This is what I’ve got…


Looks like someone previously jumped it? Correct me if I’m wrong.
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Originally Posted by HTXLS400
Does anyone know what this is?
I think that's for the air suspension system (strut air pump). There should be another connector near the right strut?
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I don’t know if it’s because I took out that wire and replaced the EFI fuse or if it’s because I’d let the new ecu sit in for 24hrs but it starts and runs. Still having a misfire an a lil rough idle but my check engine light now turns on. I guess what’s next is the fuel pump and figuring out why the o/d light is still blinking
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Originally Posted by paulo57509
I think that's for the air suspension system (strut air pump). There should be another connector near the right strut?
oh ok well I didn’t find it but I was wondering what it went to
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