04+ LS430 vs 04+ E500
#31
Tough crowds here, No love for the Benz. I agree that if you own a Benz, make sure its under warranty. I would love to have a E63 AMG anytime but the original posters was comparing and 04 LS to and 04 E500. With that, I think we're all in agreement that the LS wins it hands down as it wasn't even a fair fight.
#32
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Tough crowds here, No love for the Benz. I agree that if you own a Benz, make sure its under warranty. I would love to have a E63 AMG anytime but the original posters was comparing and 04 LS to and 04 E500. With that, I think we're all in agreement that the LS wins it hands down as it wasn't even a fair fight.
this crowd probably has no love for any other car makes, would be my guess
#34
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Just paid $1535 the past weekend for alignment, airbag sensor came on, check engine, again-->air injector components, oil change and got a POS chevy cobalt loaner b/c I didn't buy it that dealership
No offense but if you mention "lexus" on mbworld, you'll get chastised
I'm there for the informations and contributions regarding my S500.
Sorry to pick out your post
I'm still a sucker for the old (w220) S55/CL55 AMG-some day!
If anyone wants a ride in the w220 S class, let me know.
Believe me, it's no better than the LS.
If you want an upscale auto that is great to drive, get a 7 Series BMW. If you want an upscale auto that rides great and is very quiet, get a Lexus LS460 (or 430) and if you want an upscale auto that drives good (not great) and has a smooth ride (not great), get the MB500.
The ABC suspension on the AMG is wonderful but expensive to repair, just like the UL air suspension.
I have never driven any M cars, but a stock 5 and 7 is verry impressive.
But regarding the original questions, it's mainly the little annoying electrical things. No problems with their engine/transmission. Just make sure you get extennnnnnnnnded warranties
Go to mbworld.org and there's a list of tsb on the top of each models.
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And don't get me started on the LS600hL... have you ever sat in a 120,000 S-Class... the interior is FAR nicer.
#36
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So, once again, your response to most MB shortcomings is that the NEW ones are good, but the older ones -- maybe TWO years old -- SUCK ***. Maybe you should give it a rest and wait and see if, like I said, after 100+ years they've made something that doesn't suck *** (your repeated description), or instead you're just another in a long line of defenders of MB who eventually have to face the fact that they haven't changed after all. Plus, we're comparing like generations. If we're comparing to the new S, we should be talking about the LS600h, not the LS430. Have you compared the LS600h to your beloved non-suck-*** new S?
#37
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I look forward to reading how you got to where you are now in your choice of cars.
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#38
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i started mostly with Japanese cars myself and found them quite realiable Nissan 240sx then Mazda Millienia (done @ 100k) then GS400 (was a huge fan of Lexus because my dad had an ES at the time), got married, wifey wanted BMW got 540i like 3yr pre-owned had some issues (brakes were acting crazy), got a new 545i (continue to have problems, she couldn't give up on the BMW just yet), I was blown away at the performance of these BMW's, sorry to say in CL forum, it blew away the GS400, no contest! I also like the seating position much better in the German car because the seat drop lower then the Lexus I've owned. Then we got rid of GS400 to family member who really wanted my car, got a great Lease deal on MB E350 (having worked for MB at the time, also work for Lexus before MB FYI), then finally decided to get rid of 545i before warranty expired, and got LS430 almost two years ago. Always wanted the German cars, but i learned they aren't great cars to own only lease is my observation. But I still do admire the MB and BMW for what they are (performance and status IMO). As much I admire Lexus, they still are too boring to win me over 100%, in conculsion these cars have their +'s and -'s. I do like these 3 brands the best and defend them need be...
#39
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http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234138
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#40
dude, I wish you weren't even in this conversion w/ the stupid camry talk and your stupid E280, I dont even know what a E280 looks like (I'm just kidding, it's looks like any other E-class) Lets NOT bring up stupid 04Camry when we are talking about LS vs E-class please! you stick w/ your 4cyln camry, and I'll stay with my E350, OKAY!
can you accept the reality that an old stupid Carmy's ride comfort beat a E280 class hands down?
#41
New S-class is almost perfect car IMO, especially LeBron James White S63... LS600h what a joke (hybrid passing for performance) I perfer the LS460L over the LS600h. 0-60 is (almost) same on the 600 and 460. I must amit, I haven't checked out the New LS's because I dont want to be jealous, but I driven the New S550 and it's awesome...
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234138
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=234138
dude, I wish you weren't even in this conversion w/ the stupid camry talk and your stupid E280, I dont even know what a E280 looks like (I'm just kidding, it's looks like any other E-class) Lets NOT bring up stupid S-class when we are talking about LS vs E-class please! you stick w/ your 4cyln camry, and I'll stay with my E350, OKAY!
You slap your face
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