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11-15-08, 11:32 AM
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Beat it? How so? Performance wise? If that's the case, I'm not too concerned. I didn't purchase the body-roll express for performance. That being said, If I had to chose any vehicle other then the LS– it would undoubtably be a 7 series. I just find that the overall direction of the LS is and always will be luxury, while the 7 is always trying to balance luxury and performance (take the seats for instance.) Now, if the BMW didn't have a performance-minded approach, it wouldn't be a BMW. Different strokes for different folks I assume. I'd still take an E92 over an ISf any day :P
11-16-08, 07:26 AM
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Even the 2009 with twin turbos is only rated by the factory at 5.2 seconds 0-60 and it has 40hp and 90tq more than the 08.
Now, every test and source is different but using one of the slowest, Edmunds, they give the following stats
LS460, 0-60mph 5.8sec, 1/4 mile 14.20 @ 100.70mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=103461
750i, 0-60mph 6.4sec, 1/4 mile 14.23 @ 100.11mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...8/pageId=65104
I would argue in the REAL world the car that gets driven more aggressively (ecu's tend to learn and adapt to driver style) and has the more responsive driver would take a challenge. Both of these cars SHOULD be much faster than my 10 year old car but do not look that way on paper.
11-18-08, 11:11 AM
#33
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I was just replying to the quote in your signature: "My LS could eat your 7-Series... and still wouldn't break down. How is this you say?" But you're right - the cars are meant for two different types of drivers. Honestly? I prefer the Lexus LS. I'm just enjoying all the head-turning as my car goes by.. My next vehicle will likely be another LS...
The comparison I was giving was to the poster's Lexus LS430 - not the LS460. If I'm not mistaken, the new LS has done 0-60 in 5.4 seconds.. The 750Li does it in 5.8... If 6.4 is the best Edmunds could do in the 750, than shame on them...
Beat it? How so? Performance wise? If that's the case, I'm not too concerned. I didn't purchase the body-roll express for performance. That being said, If I had to chose any vehicle other then the LS– it would undoubtably be a 7 series. I just find that the overall direction of the LS is and always will be luxury, while the 7 is always trying to balance luxury and performance (take the seats for instance.) Now, if the BMW didn't have a performance-minded approach, it wouldn't be a BMW. Different strokes for different folks I assume. I'd still take an E92 over an ISf any day :P
Hmmm... the 750 is a heavy car, heavier than the LS460. It has 360hp vs the Lexus at 380hp.
Even the 2009 with twin turbos is only rated by the factory at 5.2 seconds 0-60 and it has 40hp and 90tq more than the 08.
Now, every test and source is different but using one of the slowest, Edmunds, they give the following stats
LS460, 0-60mph 5.8sec, 1/4 mile 14.20 @ 100.70mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=103461
750i, 0-60mph 6.4sec, 1/4 mile 14.23 @ 100.11mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...8/pageId=65104
I would argue in the REAL world the car that gets driven more aggressively (ecu's tend to learn and adapt to driver style) and has the more responsive driver would take a challenge. Both of these cars SHOULD be much faster than my 10 year old car but do not look that way on paper.
Even the 2009 with twin turbos is only rated by the factory at 5.2 seconds 0-60 and it has 40hp and 90tq more than the 08.
Now, every test and source is different but using one of the slowest, Edmunds, they give the following stats
LS460, 0-60mph 5.8sec, 1/4 mile 14.20 @ 100.70mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=103461
750i, 0-60mph 6.4sec, 1/4 mile 14.23 @ 100.11mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...8/pageId=65104
I would argue in the REAL world the car that gets driven more aggressively (ecu's tend to learn and adapt to driver style) and has the more responsive driver would take a challenge. Both of these cars SHOULD be much faster than my 10 year old car but do not look that way on paper.
11-19-08, 11:35 AM
#34
Hmmm... the 750 is a heavy car, heavier than the LS460. It has 360hp vs the Lexus at 380hp.
Even the 2009 with twin turbos is only rated by the factory at 5.2 seconds 0-60 and it has 40hp and 90tq more than the 08.
Now, every test and source is different but using one of the slowest, Edmunds, they give the following stats
LS460, 0-60mph 5.8sec, 1/4 mile 14.20 @ 100.70mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=103461
750i, 0-60mph 6.4sec, 1/4 mile 14.23 @ 100.11mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...8/pageId=65104
I would argue in the REAL world the car that gets driven more aggressively (ecu's tend to learn and adapt to driver style) and has the more responsive driver would take a challenge. Both of these cars SHOULD be much faster than my 10 year old car but do not look that way on paper.
Even the 2009 with twin turbos is only rated by the factory at 5.2 seconds 0-60 and it has 40hp and 90tq more than the 08.
Now, every test and source is different but using one of the slowest, Edmunds, they give the following stats
LS460, 0-60mph 5.8sec, 1/4 mile 14.20 @ 100.70mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=103461
750i, 0-60mph 6.4sec, 1/4 mile 14.23 @ 100.11mph
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...8/pageId=65104
I would argue in the REAL world the car that gets driven more aggressively (ecu's tend to learn and adapt to driver style) and has the more responsive driver would take a challenge. Both of these cars SHOULD be much faster than my 10 year old car but do not look that way on paper.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...rticleId=46353
Supposedly the 6-speed transmission in the '04+ dropped the 0-60 time to 5.9 seconds.
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