What, if anything do you not like about your 430?
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I hear a lot of complaint about wind noise. Is there a specific year that its happening to as mine is dead quiet. I drove my car with a 4 people in it and they said it was the quietest car they ever sat in. They were surprise at how it even filters out a lot of an ambulance siren. Note that mine is the UL with double pane but is the noise all of you hear coming from the front windshield only?
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Reluctantly adding to this thread, 'cause my four LS's, going back to '91 LS400, up to my current '04 UL w/ PCS, are hands down the best designed and built cars I've ever owned. (Never mind doesn't handle like a BMW or Mercedes: if they would get their reliability up to Lex levels, then maybe I would compare/consider those cars; otherwise, since quality/reliability trumps all else for me, I don't see any other choices for me as of today)
SO here goes:
1: heated and cooled seats are terrible failures; I think they're just there for marketing reasons.
2: cruise control requires multiple switch presses (dang those lawyers)
3: 5 mph setting increment on dynamic cruise (don't many of us set up 7-9 over posted limit; just can't do it with the 5 mph increment, except via luck/multiple tries)
4: my black interior is actually a mix of navy blue and black
5: dash and control design are an embarrasing hodgepodge of inconsistency; ie amber pixel type displays in one place; segmented green LCDs in another; displayed info is hard to interpret quickly, because of lack of borders between display sections; HVAC panel has nice buttons with tiny chrome bars (my favorite motif, reminds me of Audi/VW), other are plain old Toyota parts bin standards stuff (made to look worse by the nicer stuff on HVAC)
6: one color fits all bronze plastic switch buttons
7: wind noise in 430 (my last 2 400's were quieter)
8: why no wood surround for the NAV console?
9: (they'll never change this, 'cause they're copying Mercedes) rocker switch for temp control; rotating **** with 1 degree detents would be hands down better
10: pushbuttons behind steering wheel are plastic-on-plastic squeaky, and have poor tactile feel
11: NAV logic is sometimes completely crazy, especially when you leave your route
12: inability to select a NAV destination on the move
13: $300 for NAV updates
14: rain sensing wipers far too sensitive
15: dynamic cruise very inconsistent when increased speed called for; sometimes lags far behind traffic; other times grabs a gear and scares my passengers
I'm sure there's more, but that's enough, considering I love my 430.
Toyota, are you monitoring this thread? We hope so!
Best regards to all,
NC356
SO here goes:
1: heated and cooled seats are terrible failures; I think they're just there for marketing reasons.
2: cruise control requires multiple switch presses (dang those lawyers)
3: 5 mph setting increment on dynamic cruise (don't many of us set up 7-9 over posted limit; just can't do it with the 5 mph increment, except via luck/multiple tries)
4: my black interior is actually a mix of navy blue and black
5: dash and control design are an embarrasing hodgepodge of inconsistency; ie amber pixel type displays in one place; segmented green LCDs in another; displayed info is hard to interpret quickly, because of lack of borders between display sections; HVAC panel has nice buttons with tiny chrome bars (my favorite motif, reminds me of Audi/VW), other are plain old Toyota parts bin standards stuff (made to look worse by the nicer stuff on HVAC)
6: one color fits all bronze plastic switch buttons
7: wind noise in 430 (my last 2 400's were quieter)
8: why no wood surround for the NAV console?
9: (they'll never change this, 'cause they're copying Mercedes) rocker switch for temp control; rotating **** with 1 degree detents would be hands down better
10: pushbuttons behind steering wheel are plastic-on-plastic squeaky, and have poor tactile feel
11: NAV logic is sometimes completely crazy, especially when you leave your route
12: inability to select a NAV destination on the move
13: $300 for NAV updates
14: rain sensing wipers far too sensitive
15: dynamic cruise very inconsistent when increased speed called for; sometimes lags far behind traffic; other times grabs a gear and scares my passengers
I'm sure there's more, but that's enough, considering I love my 430.
Toyota, are you monitoring this thread? We hope so!
Best regards to all,
NC356
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damn my service manager quit, I can't even bring it up to him anymore. what i'm going to do is go back to dealership (when service is due) and ask again if they can fix the buttons, and if they reply that the buttons don't come on again, then i'm going to say I brought this up when I was under 50k and the service manager said the same thing, and then show him this picture of all the buttons lit! we'll see what they have to say to that!
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I hear a lot of complaint about wind noise. Is there a specific year that its happening to as mine is dead quiet. I drove my car with a 4 people in it and they said it was the quietest car they ever sat in. They were surprise at how it even filters out a lot of an ambulance siren. Note that mine is the UL with double pane but is the noise all of you hear coming from the front windshield only?
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The double pane glass make it feels like a vault, it is awesome after a long day of work
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