Uncomfortable seats
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I've sold my '03 and been looking around for my next LS. I went test-driving a few '04+ cars last Saturday and noticed for the first time that there is a LOT of difference in firmness of the soft leather seat vs. the harder leather. I'm not sure if the soft is the semi-analine (sp?) or what, but the harder seat is more like an Audi or MB or BMW, while the soft one is MUCH softer. And keep in mind that I'm talking not only about the leather, but the cushion under the leather. You can tell the difference by just looking at the seat. The soft one has the excess leather that looks loose and wavy on the seat bottom and back, while the other is drawn tight. And you can clearly feel the difference in softness between the two. I'm not sure what option you order to get the soft leather, but there was a very noticable difference between the two different leather/seat setups among the 6 cars that I looked at.
http://www.lexus.com/cpo/model_library/LS/2005.html
There are three types of seats:
- Standard
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool ****
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool **** and Perforated Leather
Which of these has the soft seats with wavy leather?
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I have an 05 CL in saddle and it has the wavy leather. It was a $1460 add-on available only on CL and UL packages. Semi-aniline was a $2100 add-on available on CL and UL. There was also an Ecru upgrade for $1460. I'm guessing that these are the wavy leather.
http://www.lexus.com/contact/model_s...ricing_ls.html
has specs & pricing on 90-05.
These prices match my sticker from the original owner. It was CL plus saddle and smart access.
I paid top dollar 2 weeks ago but it only had 8.200 miles on it.
http://www.lexus.com/contact/model_s...ricing_ls.html
has specs & pricing on 90-05.
These prices match my sticker from the original owner. It was CL plus saddle and smart access.
I paid top dollar 2 weeks ago but it only had 8.200 miles on it.
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From what I can tell looking at the model reference:
http://www.lexus.com/cpo/model_library/LS/2005.html
There are three types of seats:
- Standard
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool ****
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool **** and Perforated Leather
Which of these has the soft seats with wavy leather?
http://www.lexus.com/cpo/model_library/LS/2005.html
There are three types of seats:
- Standard
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool ****
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool **** and Perforated Leather
Which of these has the soft seats with wavy leather?
My seats look like the above.
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Its only the right side on the drivers seat probably because you put extra weight on that spot. When your driving, your right foot is on the pedal and the left foot is rested so more weight is shifted to the right side of your butt. Doesn't affect the passenger side because the passenger has both feet rested down so it's more even.
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Its only the right side on the drivers seat probably because you put extra weight on that spot. When your driving, your right foot is on the pedal and the left foot is rested so more weight is shifted to the right side of your butt. Doesn't affect the passenger side because the passenger has both feet rested down so it's more even.
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Perhaps the driver just has a deformed glutamous maximus and his/her right check is twice the size of the left cheek....
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Maybe it just me then. I don't put any pressure on my heel, so that my right butt gets all the pressure on the right side. Most of the time, my left leg is bent, which shifts pressure over to the right. I catch myself doing this a lot and try to rest my left leg to distribute the weight. I don't lean when I drive, just sit straight.
I haven't driven my MR2's in awhile but when I did, one leg on the gas and one on the clutch, my weight was distributed evenly. When I drive the accord or ls, or any auto, I tend to bend my left leg down and apply pressure to it by habit, shifting my weight to the right.
Maybe this is just me?
I haven't driven my MR2's in awhile but when I did, one leg on the gas and one on the clutch, my weight was distributed evenly. When I drive the accord or ls, or any auto, I tend to bend my left leg down and apply pressure to it by habit, shifting my weight to the right.
Maybe this is just me?
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From what I can tell looking at the model reference:
http://www.lexus.com/cpo/model_library/LS/2005.html
There are three types of seats:
- Standard
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool ****
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool **** and Perforated Leather
Which of these has the soft seats with wavy leather?
http://www.lexus.com/cpo/model_library/LS/2005.html
There are three types of seats:
- Standard
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool ****
- Climate-comfort seats with heat/cool **** and Perforated Leather
Which of these has the soft seats with wavy leather?
All that said, what I noticed most about the difference in the way the seat felt to the booty was that the Napa leather seemed to also be accompanied by a firmer cushion underneath. I don't know if the seat structure/cushioning is actually built differently (never seen any mention of it), but my wife and I both noticed it immediately and there is no doubt that those seats were firmer in those particular cars than the ones with the softer leather.
Re: the HARD SPOT in the seats... Now that the subject is up, I recall that I put my knee on the hard spot in my seat and smashed the hell out if it for about a minute up and down about a year ago and come to think of it, I've never noticed or thought about a hard spot again. Maybe that's the fix? LOL I used to notice it often, but now never do. <shrug>
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Its only the right side on the drivers seat probably because you put extra weight on that spot. When your driving, your right foot is on the pedal and the left foot is rested so more weight is shifted to the right side of your butt. Doesn't affect the passenger side because the passenger has both feet rested down so it's more even.
I personally find it very uncomfortable to drive over 45mins at once.
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Now, for a stick, my left foot of course has to move a lot to press the clutch--so my left heel doesn't get to rest when shifting.
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Maybe I've been driving small cars or what... but what are you guys driving that your heels are off and don't rest on the floor? Everything from our family Voyager, to Civic, Accord, LS430, RX300 have all been automatics, then my Integra is a stick, and on all vehicles I rest my heels, even on the left foot for clutch. Now I'm thinking maybe I'm driving wrong... ![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
Integra clutch, smooth to engage and I don't have to lift my whole foot up to mash it. It's not harder to engage than the brakes actually.
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Integra clutch, smooth to engage and I don't have to lift my whole foot up to mash it. It's not harder to engage than the brakes actually.