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Old 03-30-09, 09:43 AM
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Ugh hate to see that man, i just bought my 04 ls430 last month and i got it with 68k on it!
Old 03-30-09, 09:58 AM
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Don't worry Ay-nako... the rarity of a LS430 having trans. issues early are about the same as having a MB or BMW with no issues...
Old 03-30-09, 11:15 AM
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I agree, Lexus's are bulletproof... since I started being around bodyshops and mechanics early on the only issue I saw with that magnitude was an E class that a customer brought in to our bodyshop after it had a major rear end hit fixed by a major competitor. The main complain is that the car would not shift gears after 2nd. After many specialists looked at it I ended up taking the car to a dealer and found out that the last bodyshop SWAPPED the complete rear end from an E430 but forgot to see that the car was a 320. Gearing was all out of whack.

I would not worry; it could be something simple...Best of luck fixing it
Old 03-30-09, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MillerLite
I agree, Lexus's are bulletproof... since I started being around bodyshops and mechanics early on the only issue I saw with that magnitude was an E class that a customer brought in to our bodyshop after it had a major rear end hit fixed by a major competitor. The main complain is that the car would not shift gears after 2nd. After many specialists looked at it I ended up taking the car to a dealer and found out that the last bodyshop SWAPPED the complete rear end from an E430 but forgot to see that the car was a 320. Gearing was all out of whack.

I would not worry; it could be something simple...Best of luck fixing it

yep~she is in the shop now~~dealer(they are used car dealer) said will sent out for someone who spec in Lexus, and i am waiting for the phone call
Old 03-30-09, 06:18 PM
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had been told maybe trany oil tooo dark, they said they will flush and refill

said didn't found other problem,will pick up her tomorrow afternoon~~

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Old 03-30-09, 06:40 PM
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Thats sounds weird, stay on top of it and make sure it is solved. My car has 81k and shifts perfect and you cannot feel a single thing between shifts. Even my last LS4 with 141k shifted perfect.
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Originally Posted by BlackTulip
had been told maybe trany oil tooo dark, they said they will flush and refill

said didn't found other problem,will pick up her tomorrow afternoon~~

-_-
I think you had said this was NOT a Lexus dealership right? How did they discern that it was dirty transmission fluid? You have an '04, so this was the 6-speed which is a sealed transmission with the WS (World Standard) transmission fluid which theoretically NEVER needed changing. If your car only has 80K and it's "dark" as they say, then either the previous owner really raced the thing, or there is something else wrong causing this degradation of the fluid.

Either way, I'd question how they "drained and filled" the transmission, because there is a special Lexus tool that is used to siphon and exchanged the fluid properly. This is not regular drain and refill.

Drive carefully and make sure the issue is resolved, but keep an eye on it even if it's resolved because something caused that fluid to burn that much.
Old 03-31-09, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexusAnja
I think you had said this was NOT a Lexus dealership right? How did they discern that it was dirty transmission fluid? You have an '04, so this was the 6-speed which is a sealed transmission with the WS (World Standard) transmission fluid which theoretically NEVER needed changing. If your car only has 80K and it's "dark" as they say, then either the previous owner really raced the thing, or there is something else wrong causing this degradation of the fluid.

Either way, I'd question how they "drained and filled" the transmission, because there is a special Lexus tool that is used to siphon and exchanged the fluid properly. This is not regular drain and refill.

Drive carefully and make sure the issue is resolved, but keep an eye on it even if it's resolved because something caused that fluid to burn that much.
Yeah,,,I do have the same question too, but they didn't tell me the detail about it.dealer tell me he sent her to the Lexus spec, that spec knows everything about Lexus(I doubt it).....Pre owner was that dealer, he drive it about 2 yr(almost 40K),
tomorrow when i pick up the LS i will trying to ask the error code,or maybe I should go to another shop to check it out again......
Old 03-31-09, 01:25 AM
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Go to a Lexus dealer.
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
Go to a Lexus dealer.
kind of a little hesitantly to go to a dealer, casuse always dealer charge a lot and trying to let you change everything u don't need to,, but if the problem still there,,,I think I will trying to get a honest(by good luck) dealer to check out......
Old 03-31-09, 02:35 AM
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Who knows, I have a feeling your problem maybe the recall.
At least they can tell you what's really wrong.
Those people telling you the oil is too dirty is a warning sign that they don't know what they are doing. Your problem can't be fixed with just a simple change of oil.
Old 03-31-09, 02:49 AM
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Post blacksc400 is giving you the right advice BE WISE!!!!

Originally Posted by BlackTulip
kind of a little hesitantly to go to a dealer, casuse always dealer charge a lot and trying to let you change everything u don't need to,, but if the problem still there,,,I think I will trying to get a honest(by good luck) dealer to check out......
Be wise BlackTulip,take the advice given by Blacksc400. The car we own(LS430) is to valuable to let anyone assess such a serious issue. You can go to a non-leuxs specialist if you get and oil change or rotation done on your tires but, your issue will cost you more if you delay taking it in to a certified Lexus/Toyota mechanic. Key word is certified but, specialist must have experience with Toyot/Lexus products/autos!!!

Be Wise blacktulip, please don't hesitate to get Lexus specialist to see your problem. It may very well be a T.S.B!! Most Lexus service departments are honest. They do charge for the services but, just be straight with them and tell them of your issue. Ask if them to look at your issue because you were told it was a T.S.B. Ive had my car looked t for free by a Lexus dealer and wasn't charged until I decided I wanted them to perform the service to it. If price is an issue just tell them you want them to take a look at it and you were told its a T.S.B.. The dealer is professional because they want you to buy from them the next time you buy.

Please take Blacksc400 Advice before this issue cost you more in the long run!!!

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Old 03-31-09, 02:59 AM
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Smile Never take a car to a non certified LEXUS specialist with serious issues to your car!

Originally Posted by BlackTulip
had been told maybe trany oil tooo dark, they said they will flush and refill

said didn't found other problem,will pick up her tomorrow afternoon~~

-_-
Bad move not gooing to a Lexus dealer for this. May have been a T.S.B and if so it would be repaired free of charge. Also, Lexus has a reputable service department! Just tell them the issue and say you were told its a T.S.B whats occuring. If they say its not ask if they can look at it and tell you the issue and then give you the option after info is found to decide if you want the repair done. Ask if the could look at it without charging you to find out the problem.

Dont be afraid of the dealer. What the dealer you took it to said didnt sound right! Cheaper doesnt mean better in this case. If it a simple job like oil change thats ok but, your issue is very big and needs Lexus certified mechanics or Toyota mechanics only touching it! Please heed the words of Advice from fellow members like blacksc400, they are giving you excellent advice!
Old 03-31-09, 03:10 AM
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Smile I notice you along with me and others telling black tulip....

Originally Posted by wanderer99
It's now time to go to the dealer. They'll pull the codes and give you a diagnosis of what is going on. Having a trans not working correctly, followed by the Check VSC\Engine\Trac Off lights is the standard recipe for a potentially major trans problem.

When the ES350 was having it's transmission-death issues, this is exactly what you'd see. Misbehaving trans followed by all the warning lights.

In general, trans problems in the LS430 are ridiculously rare events. The only known problems were the very small first batch of 6 speed 2004 models which transmissions were all replaced. That's it.
....to go to the Lexus dealer with this issue! They #1 will always be sure to do a great job and if something they attempt to fix is done wrong or not correctly they always fix issue until its fixed correct! I hate spending extra money but, never regret the Dollars I spend at a Lexus dealer because the peace of mind is priceless. That said, I understand if the price Lexus service departments charge is an issue it can be costly but, at your mileage it sounds like a problem with the car that dealer will fix if its a T.S.B!

Unless previous owner didn't treat it right! Trust your fellow club members the Lexus dealer would know the issue same day and they dont have to wait for Lexus mechanic to come in to see your car because there on site. Even a Toyota service department will suffice!

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Old 03-31-09, 03:51 AM
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Thanks all guys for helping~~I think I can get my baby on 3/31 afternoon, then should I go to Lexus Dealer directly?


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