Leather Quality of UL vs. non-UL
05-01-09, 08:22 PM
#31
I had an hour to kill at a Lexus dealer today, and I checked out 2 regular model 05' LS430 at their used lot. Wow, this is the 1st time I noticed all the plastic in the interior. I never realized how much more leather surface the UL interior has! It makes a huge differences! Sorry I hope I don't offend any regular model's owners, but I never realized it until today.
Like blacksc400 said, the UL got a lot more leather. Now can anyone tell me if the CL interior is identical to the UL?
Like blacksc400 said, the UL got a lot more leather. Now can anyone tell me if the CL interior is identical to the UL?
05-02-09, 05:23 AM
#33
Additional Coverage
... I never realized how much more leather surface the UL interior has! It makes a huge differences! Sorry I hope I don't offend any regular model's owners, but I never realized it until today.
Like blacksc400 said, the UL got a lot more leather. Now can anyone tell me if the CL interior is identical to the UL?
Like blacksc400 said, the UL got a lot more leather. Now can anyone tell me if the CL interior is identical to the UL?
I wonder if it's all true leather from the rear of a cow or if it's faux leather. I mean that's a whole lot of cow to be covering a car. Short of the top of the dash, the whole interior is covered in leather or suede.
Maybe it's all that rich, soft, luxurious corinthian leather left over from the 70' and 80's Chrysler/Cadillac suppliers.
05-02-09, 09:13 AM
#34
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That link will make you smile.
05-02-09, 06:51 PM
#36
Darn right...
two thumbs up to that. No matter how firm and nice feeling the plastic may be, still no match for some padded material based panels.Also, Mr. Rourk (Ricardo Montalban, rest his soul) was for Cadillac, not Chrysler. LOVE LIVE KHAN !!!!
05-03-09, 03:16 AM
#37
Racer
Thread Starter
In a Mercedes training video that i have, my G500's leather all comes from one cow...i love my cow...there is so much of her spread around my car! Animal lovers will surely love my car when they look inside....
Animal lovers will surely love my car when they look inside....
05-03-09, 12:24 PM
#38
The hides in today's cars are cut much thinner than earlier cars. Some of today's hides are from goats and pigs. Last summer I went to a Rolls-Royce national meet and a guy there had pieces cut from the interiors of today's cars and some from the 60's. There is a big difference in thickness between the two.
I have a 67 Lincoln convertible with the original leather. It is obvious the leather in that car is more durable than in the 06 Ultra I have. I am sure if modern cars interiors were made with the same thickness of earlier cars we would complain about the added cost; still I wish an improvement could be made in durability of today's leather interiors.
05-03-09, 02:06 PM
#39
Give and take right... although $60K is expensive, it's just a product of inflation. If everything were to be PRIMO top quality, then a $60K would probably sell for more like $110K. Even some of today's $200K don't have top quality leather like the "old dayz."
05-03-09, 03:07 PM
#40
The Rolls-Royce Silver Clouds and Silver Shadows could take up to 8 hides to construct the interior seeing as all of the seating surfaces were covered in leather as were the doors and dash. The company contracted with farmers to grow cows for them that would be kept in electric fenses to prevent scratching the hides. Only the best part of each hide was used, the rest being turned into expensive handbags. This is why it is not uncommon to see these old cars with original interiors.
The hides in today's cars are cut much thinner than earlier cars. Some of today's hides are from goats and pigs. Last summer I went to a Rolls-Royce national meet and a guy there had pieces cut from the interiors of today's cars and some from the 60's. There is a big difference in thickness between the two.
I have a 67 Lincoln convertible with the original leather. It is obvious the leather in that car is more durable than in the 06 Ultra I have. I am sure if modern cars interiors were made with the same thickness of earlier cars we would complain about the added cost; still I wish an improvement could be made in durability of today's leather interiors.
The hides in today's cars are cut much thinner than earlier cars. Some of today's hides are from goats and pigs. Last summer I went to a Rolls-Royce national meet and a guy there had pieces cut from the interiors of today's cars and some from the 60's. There is a big difference in thickness between the two.
I have a 67 Lincoln convertible with the original leather. It is obvious the leather in that car is more durable than in the 06 Ultra I have. I am sure if modern cars interiors were made with the same thickness of earlier cars we would complain about the added cost; still I wish an improvement could be made in durability of today's leather interiors.
Quality of leather goes up proportionally to the price of the car, from hard vinyl like in the Camry, then it gets softer and thicker as the price goes up, ES, GS, LS, Bentley, RR.......I am sure the leather in the Veyron or Aston Martin One-77 is just as good as the best from the old days.
Last edited by BNR34; 05-03-09 at 03:14 PM.
05-03-09, 03:58 PM
#41
Hey guys, how about this instead... instead of looking to sit on prime leather, we all buy prime leather pants instead so we can "sit" on fine leather no matter where we go... 
ha ha.
ha ha.
05-03-09, 09:04 PM
#42
Village People?
Last edited by LS430inDE.; 05-03-09 at 09:34 PM.
05-03-09, 09:58 PM
#43
Lexus Champion
I had an hour to kill at a Lexus dealer today, and I checked out 2 regular model 05' LS430 at their used lot. Wow, this is the 1st time I noticed all the plastic in the interior. I never realized how much more leather surface the UL interior has! It makes a huge differences! Sorry I hope I don't offend any regular model's owners, but I never realized it until today.
Like blacksc400 said, the UL got a lot more leather. Now can anyone tell me if the CL interior is identical to the UL?
Like blacksc400 said, the UL got a lot more leather. Now can anyone tell me if the CL interior is identical to the UL?
Last edited by KILLERGS4; 05-03-09 at 10:23 PM.
05-04-09, 06:06 AM
#45
More cow !!!!
For me, I think the LS (CL and UL) has just enough leather for my taste. If it were up to me, I would not mind faux leather in the non-seating areas, just don't make the material too apparent that it's not leather.
Anyway, Village People 24-hour marathan party at my house this Saturday !!!!
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