new owner ls430 ul black/black
06-08-09, 02:37 PM
#17
Looks great. I hope mine looks that good with almost 70k on it.
My CL has saddle interior. Black interior looks great, but is a killer in South Carolina. When I got in the car after work today the temp display said 102 and was still 91 after I drove a while.
My CL has saddle interior. Black interior looks great, but is a killer in South Carolina. When I got in the car after work today the temp display said 102 and was still 91 after I drove a while.
06-08-09, 04:34 PM
#19
Tint?
A1 to that. I did 20 back and 50 front and although still warm on really sunny days, it's nowhere even close to how hot it would be. My RX with no additional tint and beige interior is SUPER hot on sunny days.
06-08-09, 06:24 PM
#20
It isn't bad with the saddle interior and I always use a reflective windshield screen or whatever it is called when I park outside for any amount of time.
The cooled seats do work a little also.
06-08-09, 07:21 PM
#21
It's not tinted. I'm not that crazy about tint. What is the lightest that I could do that would still have some effect.
It isn't bad with the saddle interior and I always use a reflective windshield screen or whatever it is called when I park outside for any amount of time.
The cooled seats do work a little also.
It isn't bad with the saddle interior and I always use a reflective windshield screen or whatever it is called when I park outside for any amount of time.
The cooled seats do work a little also.
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06-09-09, 01:01 PM
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yeah i don't think its hot enough here in cali for me to get tint, plus i like the look without the tint. the saddle interior is very cool, especially with the black carpet.
06-09-09, 01:56 PM
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Regarding interior temps. Years ago I conducted a test at work with various friends cars. Measured interior temp in the drivers seat at 2 pm after heatsoaking since 8 a.m in the Phoenix sun. After correcting for a 110F day, the interior reached 150F. This was regardless of car color. Seems they all heat up to the same temp. Also didn't matter what direction the car was parked. The big thing about dark colors is that they heat up faster than the lighter cars. So if you are doing a lot of short, frequent trips the color makes a lot of difference. Otherwise, color makes little difference. Same thing with window tint.
Here's the big thing. If you put a car cover on the car, it will drop the interior temp by 20F for the situation described above. That's a huge difference when crawling into the car at the end of a work day. That 20F difference allows the A/C to cool the car much quicker.
The other thing is that it completely blocks the UV rays to the interior. The interior will look like new years later. I could almost sell car covers. Of course it's much easier to use one in Phoenix where we have very little wind and rain.
I'm retired now and don't use a car cover as my trips are short and frequent. I spite of that, my LS43 is silver and the A/C does a super job in keeping me cool and quickly.
Have you had your A/C system checked out lately?
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06-09-09, 03:32 PM
#25
I didn't know that LS430 displayed the actual interior temps. The display show exterior temp.
... After correcting for a 110F day, the interior reached 150F. This was regardless of car color. Seems they all heat up to the same temp. Also didn't matter what direction the car was parked. The big thing about dark colors is that they heat up faster than the lighter cars. So if you are doing a lot of short, frequent trips the color makes a lot of difference. Otherwise, color makes little difference. Same thing with window tint.
...If you put a car cover on the car, it will drop the interior temp by 20F for the situation described above. That's a huge difference when crawling into the car at the end of a work day. That 20F difference allows the A/C to cool the car much quicker.
...Have you had your A/C system checked out lately?
... After correcting for a 110F day, the interior reached 150F. This was regardless of car color. Seems they all heat up to the same temp. Also didn't matter what direction the car was parked. The big thing about dark colors is that they heat up faster than the lighter cars. So if you are doing a lot of short, frequent trips the color makes a lot of difference. Otherwise, color makes little difference. Same thing with window tint.
...If you put a car cover on the car, it will drop the interior temp by 20F for the situation described above. That's a huge difference when crawling into the car at the end of a work day. That 20F difference allows the A/C to cool the car much quicker.
...Have you had your A/C system checked out lately?
Yes, it is exterior but it often shows 10 degrees hotter than outside when you turn the car on.
I'm thinking about tint although this black lexus recovers from the heat much better than my 96. I think the perforated seats help a lot. The car really does heat up fast when I go in a store or such.
Tints are much better than they used to be at heat rejection.
3m Crystalline has the following specs on their 70% film which is almost clear, letting 70% of light through:
68% Visible Light Transmitted
50% Total Solar Energy Rejected
59% On Angle†
97% Infrared Rejected††
38% Solar Heat Reduction
9% Visible Light Reflection Int.
9% Visible Light Reflection Ext.
99.9% UV Rejected
23% Glare Reduction
A cover isn't an option. I work at a power plant that has more than 500 vehicles and I'd guess 90% are pickups. I'm already driving the best car there and I'd be ridiculed off site if I had a cover.
My car only has 13,500 miles (5,000 miles since I got it in March) and the AC is like new. Quite a few sites say that tint also reduces the AC load significantly.
I'm going to price some tints.
Now to figure out what's best and how dark.
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06-09-09, 04:57 PM
#26
06-09-09, 06:47 PM
#27
I appreciate everyone's feedback.
Yes, it is exterior but it often shows 10 degrees hotter than outside when you turn the car on.
I'm thinking about tint although this black lexus recovers from the heat much better than my 96. I think the perforated seats help a lot. The car really does heat up fast when I go in a store or such.
Tints are much better than they used to be at heat rejection.
3m Crystalline has the following specs on their 70% film which is almost clear, letting 70% of light through:
68% Visible Light Transmitted
50% Total Solar Energy Rejected
59% On Angle†
97% Infrared Rejected††
38% Solar Heat Reduction
9% Visible Light Reflection Int.
9% Visible Light Reflection Ext.
99.9% UV Rejected
23% Glare Reduction
A cover isn't an option. I work at a power plant that has more than 500 vehicles and I'd guess 90% are pickups. I'm already driving the best car there and I'd be ridiculed off site if I had a cover.
My car only has 13,500 miles (5,000 miles since I got it in March) and the AC is like new. Quite a few sites say that tint also reduces the AC load significantly.
I'm going to price some tints.
Now to figure out what's best and how dark.
Yes, it is exterior but it often shows 10 degrees hotter than outside when you turn the car on.
I'm thinking about tint although this black lexus recovers from the heat much better than my 96. I think the perforated seats help a lot. The car really does heat up fast when I go in a store or such.
Tints are much better than they used to be at heat rejection.
3m Crystalline has the following specs on their 70% film which is almost clear, letting 70% of light through:
68% Visible Light Transmitted
50% Total Solar Energy Rejected
59% On Angle†
97% Infrared Rejected††
38% Solar Heat Reduction
9% Visible Light Reflection Int.
9% Visible Light Reflection Ext.
99.9% UV Rejected
23% Glare Reduction
A cover isn't an option. I work at a power plant that has more than 500 vehicles and I'd guess 90% are pickups. I'm already driving the best car there and I'd be ridiculed off site if I had a cover.
My car only has 13,500 miles (5,000 miles since I got it in March) and the AC is like new. Quite a few sites say that tint also reduces the AC load significantly.
I'm going to price some tints.
Now to figure out what's best and how dark.
I added 35% Llumar tint to the Flint Mica windows (not on the windshield) and it is noticeably easier and quicker for the AC to cool it down, and you don't feel the upper cabin heat around your head even with the AC on low. I used to never tint windows, but after the first one I always do it now. This is about the 10th car I've had tinted, and I am a very firm believer in the heat rejection as it's been very noticeable here in FL on each and every car.
Be sure to report back if you get the tint. I am confident that you'll like it.
06-10-09, 04:29 AM
#28
Which model of Llumar did you get? Is that the traditional non-metal? I read some good stuff on Llumar Axcess.
http://www.llumar.com/pdf/en/LLumarAutoSpecsUS.pdf
I'm thinking at this point that I don't want to go darker than 50%.
I haven't called anyone yet but I have a feeling that 3m Crystalline pricing will be out the roof since there are limited local sources and it's fairly new.
http://www.llumar.com/pdf/en/LLumarAutoSpecsUS.pdf
I'm thinking at this point that I don't want to go darker than 50%.
I haven't called anyone yet but I have a feeling that 3m Crystalline pricing will be out the roof since there are limited local sources and it's fairly new.
06-10-09, 11:09 AM
#29
It's just the traditional-looking one -- I didn't want it to draw attention to the fact that it's tinted by using a metal film or mirror or anything. My tinter is a long-time friend and has been in the business for about 20 years, so I just told him what I wanted (% and overall look) and trusted him with what brand to use. I'm not sure which model Llumar it is. I have 3M traditional tint on my Supra and I like it fine as well. I think one of the most important parts is to get a great installer.
