Black Pearl LS460/Celsior
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i agree he (as well as a couple others, including you) could hang with the japanese but i almost consider this a different style. nobody has really built anything in this newer over-aggresive (imo) style that i have seen.
i feel the same as far as this style being kind of tacky, but there's a big difference between where vip started and where most of us became aquainted with it. go back to the true beginnings and it's really not that far off other than the level of detail being much greater now.
it is what it is. i don't like most of it but i'm not going to sit here in tx reading japanese magazines and translating websites and pretend like it's my place to deicde if it''s vip. it's their thing, they can do what they want. meanwhile, i'll be over here doing what i want (can) and reminise the good ol' days. lol.
this is not vip to me and to many others that i have talked to over the years but most don't want to admit it on an open forum. this is just rice on an extreme $$$ level. this is pretty much the opposite end of what the vip spectrum started out as. there is a fine line between vip and just to much ice and this cat can't even see the line from where his celsior/ 430 is at.
it is what it is. i don't like most of it but i'm not going to sit here in tx reading japanese magazines and translating websites and pretend like it's my place to deicde if it''s vip. it's their thing, they can do what they want. meanwhile, i'll be over here doing what i want (can) and reminise the good ol' days. lol.
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^ ^ ^,, agreed. also though if we all made like 2-3 times what we are making now we would also have a lot more serious coinage to throw at these cars on mods... remember that. cost of living aside, you can buy a lot more 6k sets of wheels when your making 180k than you can at 75k a year
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word. well like i was saying this style has been getting exposure on the vip sites since last season when cats in japan really started going aggressive. give it a couple years lead time and i would expect some stateside builds. we're always a little behind and this is so much custom work.
"... if people wanted to see..." in what context?
"... if people wanted to see..." in what context?
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My mistake. I was thinking about the 460/600 quite a bit and had an obvious brain fart when I posted.
That being said, I would tend to agree that this does not fit my own definition of VIP and I never said it was. However I don't think the fact that it isn't VIP to us makes this car any less relevant. I think there are several aspects of this car that would suit a car going by a strict definition of what VIP should be and it's also an inspirational build for those who aren't necessarily trying to fit into a certain style.
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dude,
i know where the pics came from, i believe i have an issue or two with that same car featured in it. i never said you said it was vip, i just said i said i didn't think it was vip... wow that just sounds funny to me... anyways i lived in japan for a minute and was in the vip scene when i lived out there, went to meets n shows n what not and i'm just saying that just by taking a vip car and ricing it out doesn't make the end result vip...
i like the originality of it but putting on every possible aftermarket piece you can find isn't exactly my cup of tee. again nice to look at but i wouldn't do it to a car that i would own and operate. way to much attention. i'm diggin the headlights for sure though.
so you represent a company apparently that offers vip parts?? what parts on this car would you be able to offer??
i've thought long and hard about trying to offer my own blend of parts to the u.s. market that are readily available in jp and i came up with what i found in a few vip mags as diy's... buying the little cut outs or fish gill type body inserts right, then buying oem stock fenders for say 2gs, 3gs, ls 430-460's and using the diy directions to cut the fenders or body kit pieces and molding in the inserts then painting them whatever color and mailing them out to people who ordered them... it is a really easy process if you have a garage and the right tools (i have neither)... plus you can get the parts for a fraction of what the only 2 companies i have seen these being offered at charge and you stand to make a significant amount of monies off of this... i am sure there is enough of a market out here to justify making a few of them,, what do you think about this as a new product.??
i know where the pics came from, i believe i have an issue or two with that same car featured in it. i never said you said it was vip, i just said i said i didn't think it was vip... wow that just sounds funny to me... anyways i lived in japan for a minute and was in the vip scene when i lived out there, went to meets n shows n what not and i'm just saying that just by taking a vip car and ricing it out doesn't make the end result vip...
i like the originality of it but putting on every possible aftermarket piece you can find isn't exactly my cup of tee. again nice to look at but i wouldn't do it to a car that i would own and operate. way to much attention. i'm diggin the headlights for sure though.
so you represent a company apparently that offers vip parts?? what parts on this car would you be able to offer??
i've thought long and hard about trying to offer my own blend of parts to the u.s. market that are readily available in jp and i came up with what i found in a few vip mags as diy's... buying the little cut outs or fish gill type body inserts right, then buying oem stock fenders for say 2gs, 3gs, ls 430-460's and using the diy directions to cut the fenders or body kit pieces and molding in the inserts then painting them whatever color and mailing them out to people who ordered them... it is a really easy process if you have a garage and the right tools (i have neither)... plus you can get the parts for a fraction of what the only 2 companies i have seen these being offered at charge and you stand to make a significant amount of monies off of this... i am sure there is enough of a market out here to justify making a few of them,, what do you think about this as a new product.??
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I think both those cars look ridiculous. What benefit is there to putting on rims and tires that don't fit in the wheel well and make the ride feel like you're on an old skateboard with metal wheels?
Sorry, but I just don't like modifications that take too much away from functionality. To each his own though.... cheers.
Sorry, but I just don't like modifications that take too much away from functionality. To each his own though.... cheers.
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yeah the ride is prolly a little harsher than stock but trust that the car wouldn't be driven at that height... most of these high end cars you see that are sitting that low to the ground are also on air suspension setups so the owners would likely raise the car a few inches before driving off. the owner prolly doesn't want to wreck their front bumper either
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I think both those cars look ridiculous. What benefit is there to putting on rims and tires that don't fit in the wheel well and make the ride feel like you're on an old skateboard with metal wheels?
Sorry, but I just don't like modifications that take too much away from functionality. To each his own though.... cheers.
Sorry, but I just don't like modifications that take too much away from functionality. To each his own though.... cheers.
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