Which car is the best deal?
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I thought 2lucky said the 2 UL's for sale were from an individual. As we all know the cars are now 6-7 years old and this is a a down economy (recession just starting to hit in Texas) and people are losing their jobs. So if I was in financial distress and needed to get quick cash or get from under a loan I would price my car to sell quickly also. The KBB value for private seller is 22.5k to 25K. So those sale values are with range especially for a distressed seller.
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Ultra luxury...
The only thing i can think of about a UL at that price is that it was actually, "ultra luxurious" and not the Ultra Luxury version. I bet these cars don't even have NAV in them...
2lucky, was this a joke? We're all pretty in tune with the pricing of our cars... this sounds like a post from 2good2Btrue.
2lucky, was this a joke? We're all pretty in tune with the pricing of our cars... this sounds like a post from 2good2Btrue.
I could say my RX300 is a "super handling AWD" vehicle....
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I thought 2lucky said the 2 UL's for sale were from an individual. As we all know the cars are now 6-7 years old and this is a a down economy (recession just starting to hit in Texas) and people are losing their jobs. So if I was in financial distress and needed to get quick cash or get from under a loan I would price my car to sell quickly also. The KBB value for private seller is 22.5k to 25K. So those sale values are with range especially for a distressed seller.
i just looked up my UL last week and it was like 28 or 29k for private sale at 57k miles 05 UL.
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Sorry if those numbers offended you but when I ran the 04 UL on the KBB site that's the ranges I got for private sale/trade in (versus retail). It will be higher for a 05UL. In the long run none of the price estimations really matter when you are trying to sell in a down economy. It's like having a house thats appraises at 1.9 million but you can't sell for even half that amount. You can only get what a willing buyer will pay you. I suggest that 2lucky buy the car that feels right when he drives it and it passes a good lexus wise mechanics inspection.
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Sorry if those numbers offended you but when I ran the 04 UL on the KBB site that's the ranges I got for private sale/trade in (versus retail). It will be higher for a 05UL. In the long run none of the price estimations really matter when you are trying to sell in a down economy. It's like having a house thats appraises at 1.9 million but you can't sell for even half that amount. You can only get what a willing buyer will pay you. I suggest that 2lucky buy the car that feels right when he drives it and it passes a good lexus wise mechanics inspection.
so for my zip i came up with the following:
#1) $22,500, 49k mi. same condition as mine same zip and same options kbb says $26,600
#2) $19,000, 85k mi. same condition as mine same zip and same options kbb says $22,425
kinda depressing how fast they have been depreciating lately. but if clean i would still go with the first one and it seems like it is priced about 4k below kbb for my query at least so yeah sounds like an awesome deal.
btw what color ext and int were the 2 choices? that would decide it for me more than the mileage
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FYI...
2004 LS430 UL in "Outstanding" condition with 58,000 miles (color Black)... according to Edmunds true pricing report is:
Trade: $21,976
Private Party: $24,655
Dealer: $27,598
2004 LS430 UL in "Outstanding" condition with 48,000 miles (color Black)... according to Edmunds true pricing report is:
T: $22,482
PP: $25,156
D: $28,096
2004 LS430 UL in "Outstanding" condition with 88,000 miles (color Black)... according to Edmunds true pricing report is:
T: $20,093
PP: $22,767
D: $25,707
Same numbers for Alabama and Texas...
2004 LS430 UL in "Outstanding" condition with 58,000 miles (color Black)... according to Edmunds true pricing report is:
Trade: $21,976
Private Party: $24,655
Dealer: $27,598
2004 LS430 UL in "Outstanding" condition with 48,000 miles (color Black)... according to Edmunds true pricing report is:
T: $22,482
PP: $25,156
D: $28,096
2004 LS430 UL in "Outstanding" condition with 88,000 miles (color Black)... according to Edmunds true pricing report is:
T: $20,093
PP: $22,767
D: $25,707
Same numbers for Alabama and Texas...
Last edited by DDLexus; 02-18-10 at 12:51 PM. Reason: added more info...
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Chances are that the lower mileage car is going to be lot nicer inside out. With more miles paint keeps getting worse. In addition to that; Considering lower miles, less mechanical wear and tear, 90K service issue, and resle the choice is clear. Go for the lower mileage one. Premium is not significant.
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For the nonbelievers, the UL was on Autotrader when I left to pick it up yesterday, it's since been removed. The listed price was $24,950.
This car was still under the CPO warranty, and had been serviced by the dealer every 5k mi., with all recommended services.
I flew to Cedar Rapids, Iowa to pick it up - contingent on my inspection.
Got home at 2:30 this morning and I couldn't be happier. This UL truly exceeded my expectations. I've only found 1 small paint chip on the whole car and not a single ding.
I'm not new to the LS family...I purchased a 2001 UL, brand new for full MSRP PLUS dealer inventory tax! Took an enormous depreciation hit when I sold it in 2007 to buy a CPO 2006 LS. Sold the '06 last summer out of economic concerns *PANIC*.
I'd previously had an LS400 as well.
I can assure you I have a UL (door window shades, stereo, seat temp. and other controls on the rear arm rest, frig.).
I'm considering a clear bra, since the front appears so clean. Any thoughts?
Does anyone have any suggestions for cleaning any salt residue from the underside?
I intend to clay and Zaino the paint.
Thanks again for all the input!
This car was still under the CPO warranty, and had been serviced by the dealer every 5k mi., with all recommended services.
I flew to Cedar Rapids, Iowa to pick it up - contingent on my inspection.
Got home at 2:30 this morning and I couldn't be happier. This UL truly exceeded my expectations. I've only found 1 small paint chip on the whole car and not a single ding.
I'm not new to the LS family...I purchased a 2001 UL, brand new for full MSRP PLUS dealer inventory tax! Took an enormous depreciation hit when I sold it in 2007 to buy a CPO 2006 LS. Sold the '06 last summer out of economic concerns *PANIC*.
I'd previously had an LS400 as well.
I can assure you I have a UL (door window shades, stereo, seat temp. and other controls on the rear arm rest, frig.).
I'm considering a clear bra, since the front appears so clean. Any thoughts?
Does anyone have any suggestions for cleaning any salt residue from the underside?
I intend to clay and Zaino the paint.
Thanks again for all the input!
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Absolutely, but I'd really like to do some detailing first.
I'd intended to get on it today but here's what happened:
1) seller insisted on taking license plates
2) I went to DMV to get plates, they said I had to get TX inspection sticker first
3) inspection guy wouldn't give me sticker because for some reason the insurance cert. Geico e-mailed me, indicated my insurance starts tomorrow! I had the title showing I'd just bought it yesterday. The inspection guy didn't care that I offered to let him call Geico
I'd intended to get on it today but here's what happened:
1) seller insisted on taking license plates
2) I went to DMV to get plates, they said I had to get TX inspection sticker first
3) inspection guy wouldn't give me sticker because for some reason the insurance cert. Geico e-mailed me, indicated my insurance starts tomorrow! I had the title showing I'd just bought it yesterday. The inspection guy didn't care that I offered to let him call Geico