I love this car (Coolant Reservoir edition)
#1
Driver
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I love this car (Coolant Reservoir edition)
I checked my coolant for the first time since buying the car two weeks ago. I checked because my other car is a BMW where if anything goes even slightly wrong with the cooling system, the engine will pretty much overheat and destroy itself in short order (so I am **** about this stuff).
Anyway, the Lexus had zero coolant in the reservoir! I smacked myself and added water (and ordered some Toyota coolant online). Then I sat down and read up on this issue on Club Lexus. It seems this is a common thing that rarely results in overheating (if you monitor it every month or so?) I laughed at how this issue is life-threatening to a BMW, but is barely a concern for our LS's. One more reason to be happy with my purchase.
Anyway, the Lexus had zero coolant in the reservoir! I smacked myself and added water (and ordered some Toyota coolant online). Then I sat down and read up on this issue on Club Lexus. It seems this is a common thing that rarely results in overheating (if you monitor it every month or so?) I laughed at how this issue is life-threatening to a BMW, but is barely a concern for our LS's. One more reason to be happy with my purchase.
#2
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Yup, you pretty much nailed it on the head. The coolant will evaporate in these cars over time. I add a little to my 2001 every 8-10,000 miles or so.
It's not an uncommon issue, as you will see.. VV
It's not an uncommon issue, as you will see.. VV
#3
Lexus Fanatic
My ls430 had no coolant in the reservoir, and none that could be seen in radiator, when I bought it used. Temp normal.
my 335i has a pressurized reservoir, so if it had no coolant, it would be indicative of a serious problem. But it has never been low, at least after 11 yrs, with a coolant replacement at 5 yrs. My .02...
edit ps Walmart usually has a great deal on 50/50 pink sllc2, a round $9 gal....
my 335i has a pressurized reservoir, so if it had no coolant, it would be indicative of a serious problem. But it has never been low, at least after 11 yrs, with a coolant replacement at 5 yrs. My .02...
edit ps Walmart usually has a great deal on 50/50 pink sllc2, a round $9 gal....
Last edited by Johnhav430; 05-13-18 at 09:54 AM.
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Thecar (05-14-18)
#4
Agreed. Normal and common for the LS430. Just keep an eye on it regularly by just looking at the level in the morning while leaning in and over the air intake plastic piece adjacent to the radiator. I need to add occasionally and keep it topped up to minimum to avoid it getting low. Normal evaporation from the reservoir.
#5
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A little anecdotal experience. I noticed the resivoir tank was pretty empty no matter what during the winter months. But was halfway full after a drive today in 90° weather. I haven't refilled it or otherwise messed with it in between the seasons. The fluid seems to expand quite a good deal when it's warm.
#6
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A little anecdotal experience. I noticed the resivoir tank was pretty empty no matter what during the winter months. But was halfway full after a drive today in 90° weather. I haven't refilled it or otherwise messed with it in between the seasons. The fluid seems to expand quite a good deal when it's warm.
v = 1 / ρ = V / m (volumetric expansion formula)
where
v = specific volume (m3/kg, ft3/lb)
ρ = density (kg/m3, lb/ft3)
V = volume of unit (m3, ft3)
m = mass of unit (kg, lb)
Or something like that......
#7
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When you are talking about math, I don't think you are allowed to say "or something like that"!
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#8
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I used to be one of those guys who put a lot of weight into the mpg ratings, until I was told they test < 15% of the vehicles. Otherwise it's self-reported by the mfg. (fox in the hen house conundrum).
My wife's has a 16/22 when it's closer to 12 combined and 19 highway. But GM gets a free pass! When BMW said 36 highway on the 2012 328i, the EPA immediately tested the vehicle and BMW had to revise the number down to 33. Or something like that!
With the coolant on my LS430, I thought blown head gaskets, this is what I get for buying a used car. Knock on wood it couldn't have been further from the truth and yes it does totally evaporate over time....because on coolant drain/fill and a 2nd with a water pump/timing belt job, and it doesn't "consume" coolant...
#9
The coolant in the system that evaporates is likely that which comes out of the weep hole in the water pump. Not a very high volume but over the course of time you can see the remnants of it when you replace your water pump...
#10
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EDIT: Nevermind, the image is of a LS460, not a 430. Is this something checkable on the 430 without too much disassembly?
#11
Even at a very small rate of weepage, wouldn't there be at least a hint of coolant smell out side the car or under the hood after a drive? My nose has always been my best tool on detecting leaks, and there has never been any coolant smell other than when my radiator failed.
#12
I don't think so. It wouldn't surprise me that many of the water pumps in our LS430's weep to some extent. It's what it is designed to do. Here are a couple of pictures I took while changing out the timing belt and WP last fall. IIRC, for the most part, the mass of coolant in there was pretty dry. The drops of coolant that you see are from draining some of the coolant out of the car. I also was poking at the stuff before taking these pictures...
I don't think much coolant weeps out at any given time, perhaps a drop(s) at a time and it probably evaporates rather quickly since I assume it's happening when the engine is pretty hot. And the fact that it's pretty buried in there might be the reason why you don't smell it.
Another leakage point I've come to discover is the overflow tank. At least according to the pictures of mine when I removed my radiator when I was changing out the timing belt. I'm not quite sure of the leakage path in this case...
Even at a very small rate of weepage, wouldn't there be at least a hint of coolant smell out side the car or under the hood after a drive? My nose has always been my best tool on detecting leaks, and there has never been any coolant smell other than when my radiator failed.
Another leakage point I've come to discover is the overflow tank. At least according to the pictures of mine when I removed my radiator when I was changing out the timing belt. I'm not quite sure of the leakage path in this case...
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2KHarrier (05-15-18)
#13
If more owners examined their reservoirs they would also notice the pinkish staining along the sides and top. It is quite common and par for the course.
#14
Funny, two nights ago my LS was overheating, pulled into my friend's driveway, absolutely 0 coolant. I ran to the nearest gas station and filled it up. Crisis averted for now. when I have more time I'll check out if I have any leaks. Are there any common places/hoses where it tends to leak from?
#15
Driver
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I'm too new to know the common places, but seeing how the coolant leaves obvious white/pink streaks when it dries, it shouldn't be too hard to see where you are losing it (so long as it's not an internal thing).