Need guidance - Ultra Luxury?
#17
Having owned 2 LS430s and driven many more, as well as Towncars, they really aren’t comparable. The features and attention to detail in the LS are leagues above the Towncar, and of course the LS’s ride is far superior. It’s soft and plush without really feeling like an unwieldy boat like the Towncar. Test drive an LS and a Towncar... you’ll see.
#19
Lexus Fanatic
Also as mentioned 3 yrs. ago I toured a Saab warehouse full of parts that nobody ever wants (the GM told me nothing ever leaves this place but we have to keep the parts). I would not worry about parts.
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#22
Personally, I specifically wanted a UL. I wanted the driver comforts such as air ride and adaptive cruise but I also was really into the idea of the passenger luxuries. Maybe I'm being a bit of a showoff but I do like to make people say wow. I enjoy the reaction of people sitting down in the back as they discover the message function while they recline the seats. It's just something I get a kick out of. Some might think it is stupid of me to get a UL for that reason but that's just how I am lol.
But seriously, I do actually sit in the back sometimes. When I have to wait for someone, I'll sometimes just hop in the back and chill out while watching YouTube or whatever.
I personally find the risk of an expensive repair with the air ride to be worth it. Many do not and I totally understand that. It's just something you'll have to decide yourself.
I'm wondering, has anyone here had the pleasure of riding in both a standard suspension and air ride 430? How appreciable do you feel the difference in ride comfort and handling is between the two?
I agree. I can't stress enough how amazing adaptive cruise control is and having it be radar based makes it even better since you don't have to worry so much about weather conditions throwing it off.
This is the first car I have owned with adaptive cruise and to be perfectly frank, it has totally spoiled me. I would seriously have trouble going back to a normal cruise system. In fact, I have a few cars in mind that I would like to buy down the road as fun weekend cars and the idea of having old cruise really turns me off. One of the cars I'm leaning toward buying is an SL55 AMG. The idea that I can look at such an amazing and fun car but then think, "ugh, it has old fashioned cruise..." is testament to how much I've come to love adaptive cruise lol.
Basically, once you go adaptive, it's hard to go back.
But seriously, I do actually sit in the back sometimes. When I have to wait for someone, I'll sometimes just hop in the back and chill out while watching YouTube or whatever.
I personally find the risk of an expensive repair with the air ride to be worth it. Many do not and I totally understand that. It's just something you'll have to decide yourself.
I'm wondering, has anyone here had the pleasure of riding in both a standard suspension and air ride 430? How appreciable do you feel the difference in ride comfort and handling is between the two?
This is the first car I have owned with adaptive cruise and to be perfectly frank, it has totally spoiled me. I would seriously have trouble going back to a normal cruise system. In fact, I have a few cars in mind that I would like to buy down the road as fun weekend cars and the idea of having old cruise really turns me off. One of the cars I'm leaning toward buying is an SL55 AMG. The idea that I can look at such an amazing and fun car but then think, "ugh, it has old fashioned cruise..." is testament to how much I've come to love adaptive cruise lol.
Basically, once you go adaptive, it's hard to go back.
#24
Lexus Champion
While a Ultra Luxury LS 430 might be more reliable than certain Audi's, there are still items to worry about that might go bad. Particularly the air-suspension if it has been treated unwell.
Beyond the air suspension, the only reason to get an Ultra Luxury is for the rear seat accommodations. RADAR cruise control is also available on Custom Luxury trim if I recall, but do not feature air suspension or rear seat controls.
Up to you to decide if it's worth it or not.
Beyond the air suspension, the only reason to get an Ultra Luxury is for the rear seat accommodations. RADAR cruise control is also available on Custom Luxury trim if I recall, but do not feature air suspension or rear seat controls.
Up to you to decide if it's worth it or not.
#25
Driver School Candidate
I used to own a 2009 Town Car. While I enjoyed it tremendously and the ride and interior spaciousness were quite nice, I must echo what others have said in that there is no comparison regarding fit and finish, ride, or power delivery. As a model that got by with incremental changes over its years in production, however, it was eminently reliable. It's worth noting that Town Car's were equipped with air suspension only in the rear, which from my time on the Lincoln forums seemed prone to premature failure, though it never happened to mine. Don't get me wrong, I loved my Town Car, but the 4.6 was pretty breathless for its displacement and the weight of the vehicle while the touch points, though in line with its (very reasonable) price point, left something to be desired when compared to most "competitors". I will say that navigating down the road with that Lincoln star on the hood leading the way was pretty satisfying.
I now own a UL.
I now own a UL.
#27
When I bought mine 9 years ago, I considered UL but went for CL and have been very happy with it. I have been on this board for all these years now and there have been enough problems reported with air suspension that I wouldn't recommend one unless it has already been converted to coil overs. Rear seat goodies are also not that relevant in today's world. I rarely rode in the back seat and once riding in backseat became a real option, I bought a long wheelbase LS460.
#28
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
So to my suprise I found this guy locally (an 01 UL)
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d...649475065.html
And then saw this guy who's a standard LS
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d...648623947.html
Before the facelift in 04 though...
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d...649475065.html
And then saw this guy who's a standard LS
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d...648623947.html
Before the facelift in 04 though...
#29
So to my suprise I found this guy locally (an 01 UL)
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d...649475065.html
And then saw this guy who's a standard LS
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d...648623947.html
Before the facelift in 04 though...
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d...649475065.html
And then saw this guy who's a standard LS
https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d...648623947.html
Before the facelift in 04 though...
I would be very leery of the '01 and its air suspension unless it has been converted or replaced. While the '03 might well be a good car, I rely heavily on a used car coming from a good home - here, apparently an apartment complex which is a bit of a red flag.