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DIY LS430 VSV (VACUUM SWITCHING VALVE) for EVAP cleaning / replacement procedure

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Old 05-04-20, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ls430w140
This DIY guide will help you make a decision / determine the right steps to do the proper maintenance of one of the most important elements of Lexus LS430 exhaust / evaporative system - VSV (Vacuum Switching Valve) - which may have other names as well, including EVAP Purge Control Valve, or EGR Valve.

This DIY Guide applies to you if:
- LS430 is above 100k miles
- LS430 2001-2006 years of production
- Maintenance was never done to evaporative system
- The intelligent scanner / techstream / regular DTC code reader does or does NOT show any DTC codes related to evaporative emission control system
- There is a need to do the maintenance of VSV valve.

The goal of DIY was to:
- Test the theory that the valve plays the key role in ensuring the exhaust gases return to throttle body precisely according to ECM instructions
- Test the theory that the valve may directly or indirectly involved with a much broader processes going on in the engine / transmission that previously thought / miscommunicated.
- Verify what is the practical result of cleaning the valve in terms of safety and emissions control (by seeing if any DTCs appear afterwards)
- Determine if any practical benefits results from this procedure.

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Lexus / Toyota created Owner's Manual, Service Manual and Dealer Workshop manuals to help service LS430 and offered substantial amount of information available to understand the subject of this part of emissions system. At the same time, Lexus / Toyota did not decide to elaborate on the following procedure, not to mention that dealers do not even look at this part unless they do electronic diagnostic and uncover the DTC code.

So let's look at the guide and Lexus visual materials to make our own conclusion whether it makes sense to clean / replace VSV (EGR, PURGE VALVE) or not.

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1) What is Evaporative Emission control?

According to Toyota, "The engine ECU controls the purge flow of evaporative emissions (HC) in the charcoal canister in accordance with engine conditions." Lexus is capable to detect evaporative system leaks / low inputs / high inputs and inform the driver through Check engine and DTCs.

2) Is there a difference between VSV (Vacuum Switching Valve) and VSV (For EVAP)?

Yes. LS430 has two different VSV systems. One is located within ACIS (Acoustic Control Induction System) (between the engine and cabin), while the other VSV is located on the driver side of the engine (visually observable).

VSV (Vacuum Switching Valve) in ACIS system controls the vacuum that is applied to the actuator by way of the signal (ACIS) that is output by the engine ECU. The intake air control valve, which is provided in the middle of the intake manifold in the intake air chamber, opens and closes to change the effective length of the intake manifold in two stages..


VSV (for EVAP) regulates evaporative emissions (EVAP) from the fuel tank that are routed through the canister to the intake manifold for combustion in the cylinders. After the engine is warmed up, the ECM changes the duty signal to the EVAP VSV so that the intake quantity of EVAP is appropriate for the driving conditions (engine load, engine RPM, vehicle speed, etc.).





3) What does Toyota / Lexus recommend about inspecting the VSV for EVAP?




4) Is cleaning the VSV (for EVAP) a maintenance procedure recommended by Toyota / Lexus?

No, due to unknown reasons.

5) What would happen if VSV (for EVAP) valve becomes clogged or malfunctions or stucks open?

As was mentioned earlier, when the engine is running under certain conditions, the fuel vapors are purged from the charcoal canister and burned inside the engine. This valve precisely controls the amount of fuel vapor that is purged from the charcoal canister.

This valve is electronically controlled solenoid which is designed to gradually open to allow some amount of fuel vapors to escape the canister and enter engine through throttle body.

Lexus / Toyota engines are supposed to inform if the valve is malfunctioning or somehow obstructs the normal emission control system. However, without proper testing, there is a reason to believe that the ECM still cannot perfectly determine whether VSV (for EVAP) is clogged or has dirt inside of it. If the VSV valve completely breaks and stop working, than the ECM will illuminate check engine light. However, it may be too late as some damage may have been done to evaporative and other systems.

Google offers this possible scenarios when VSV valves goes bad:
- Impacted Air to fuel ratio
- Rough idling (car feels rough and bouncy when the engine is running)
- Difficulty Starting
- Engine will feel weak
- Engine stalling
- Engine misfires

6) Is it ok to remove or block VSV completely to avoid problems?

No

7) Do dealers talk to clients about this problem?

To my best knowledge, dealers do not look at this part unless they see DTC. And this is where the problem is - the ECM doesnt detect if the valve works poorly (outside factory specifications) unless it is completely malfunctioned. Therefore, nobody is aware whats going on in the valve unless the client has multiple evaporative emission codes. As it is well known, by that time, the damage is already done to the engine which causes expensive repairs.

8) What can you do to avoid the problem with evaporative canister / vapors?

Not only that everyone who owns LS430 may do the following inexpensive maintenance procedure, but also receive SUBSTANTIAL benefit for their car (i will explain later) as confirmed in my case.

Basically, the $5 fix include removing VSV (for EVAP) from the engine (2-3 minutes), deattaching two rubber hoses (30 sec.), applying the good spray of WD-40 in both channels until everything gets cleaned out and lubricated. Make sure you give 20 min at least to ensure the solvent is evaporated from the valve.

Install everything back. You are done with this procedure.





9) What did I notice immediately after this procedure?

And this was the whole reason why I decided to create this DIY guide. I am amazed about what role does the valve play in LS430. Once it returns to its normal factory status, the results are unbelievable. Here are some of the beneficial effects that I am currently observing in my car:

- Engine vibration has been significantly reduced from low to super low.
- The Idle RPM has been stabilized and no longer "float" as much as before (we are talking about minimal discrepancy, but still makes a difference).
- Engine runs smoother (definitely confirmed by multiple people)
- Acceleration.... Until the day i did this DIY i thought my acceleration was smooth. Well now it is even better. I also noticed my RPM stays STABLE during acceleration.
- No longer I feel the smell of fuel when exiting the car. I always thought it was due to my new exhaust setup.
- AND THE BEST FOR THE LAST - MY FUEL CONSUMPTION DROPPED by APPROXIMATELY 35%.This conclusion is not subjective, my average MPG in the city is STILL (!) going up 0.1 mpg every 20 min of driving. Its been a week since i did the cleaning, and I am absolutely surprised that my 3UZ-FE is still adjusting to new "setup" and keeps pushing economy up.

Overall, I recommend to all forum members to consider this DIY with your quest for better engine work, quiteness, lexus comfort, saving money, and taking care of the future of our cars.

Also, there is a theory that dirty VSV for EVAP affects AISIN transmissions as they collect information about its operation and resulting torque. Due to the fact that my transmission is already super smooth after SIA fix, I am looking forward to hear from other forum members whether they observe an improvement in shifting quality after performing this DIY.

Opened for feedback.
would you recommend this process for a P0400 code on a 05 with 74k miles?
Old 08-25-20, 02:01 PM
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My car had these codes, I pulled the cover off and a hose was disconnected.

So far so good, car runs much better now, I don't notice much difference in idle, but part throttle acceleration seems way more linear.

Thanks!
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Just did the VSV EGR valve cleaning on my SC430 at 224,000 miles. Had never been done before, but the valve looked pretty clean inside. Sprayed with WD40 followed with throttle body cleaner. During the spraying, I also cycled the valve open/close with a DC power supply adjusted to just open the valve. Only a small amount of black material was freed by the spray cleaners. Hoses and electrical connecter were still in surprising good condition. Easy project and quick.

Now, we'll see how she behaves of the next few days.
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I did this on my 14 GX460 as well with an improvement in idle smoothness and less RPM fluctuations. Part is different vs the 4.3 but it’s a great DIY. This is also applicable to the 4.6 V8.





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Just did this this weekend. i was experiencing a stumble after startup and hesitation.
now no stumble no hesitation. waiting to see what kind of economy i get. i was seeing
18.3 avg mpg. Ill update over next weekend. But thanks for the writup.
Probably one of the best and easiest services on the car.
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Originally Posted by Bsavage
My car has some of those symptoms I’ll give it a shot in the next few hours I’ll update thank you great post
This is a great DIY post. I had the gas odor symptom and decided to check the VSV. What I found was that the gas tank vapor feed hose had pulled loose from the tube that feeds up from the gas tank. I assume that I knocked it loose when I changed out the PCV and the PCV hose. So I reconnected it, will test it and let y'all know the results. I cannot imagine the VCV working at all with this hose disconnected. Anyway, without this tutorial I never would have discovered the vapor feed hose being disconnected.
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Originally Posted by peafarmer
I have a 2003 LS430, 240K miles that has codes P0442 and P0446. I thought I would start my troubleshooting at the VSV. I removed the electrical connector to the VSV and am measuring 11.7 V with the ignition ON, not started. I removed the VSV and see that the hoses to it are cracked, so I think I could have a small vacuum leak on one or all of the hoses. The VSV is closed with no voltage applied. I took the VSV and applied 12.8 VDC from the battery and heard a click, and the VSV opened...I could blow air through it.

So, I thought: the VSV is good, time to troubleshoot elsewhere, but decided to make sure that the VSV opened with the voltage from the connector. To my surprise, when I connected the electrical connector to the VSV and turned the ignition ON, the VSV did NOT open.

So, at this point, have I found my problem? Is my VSV bad? I saw videos of mechanics using a 9 Volt battery to check these valves. Also, if my VSV is not operating as it should would this cleaning process perhaps restore it, or is it too far gone...just replace it?

Thanks, hope somebody has some experience that will help.

Andy
I found this thread to prepare for some VSV cleaning and read your post:

I think this VSV is not going to open with the ignition on. It only opens when the ECU wants to purge the canister.
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Anyone know the exact size of the vacuum hoses? Are they 6mm x 10mm or 8mm x 12mm?

I reinstalled before thinking of measuring.
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Does anyone know if part 23818-46110, the rectangle plastic part incorporates a one way valve in it? Mine snapped off and i just reconnected it directly with a silicon hose.



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Originally Posted by FTS999
Does anyone know if part 23818-46110, the rectangle plastic part incorporates a one way valve in it? Mine snapped off and i just reconnected it directly with a silicon hose.


Nope, it's hollow. I replaced mine years ago with bulk tubing and have had no issues.
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Want to add to this. I kept getting evap codes. Replaced gas cap. No fix. Replaced hoses. No fix. Stumbled on this thread. Took off my vcv and one of the nipples broke off. Was quite brottle. Trip to the pick a part. Found one on a 2003 ls430 and one on a sequoia. Same part number.

Sprayed both down with wd40. Neither allowed the fluid to move through the valve. Saw someone applied 12v to activate it. Used a 9v battery with a couple of aligator clips. One of the valves had a quite audible click. The other didnt at first. Once i fed wd40 it traveled through the valves. Followed with maf cleaner and both make the same click now. A quite audible one.

Tested the broken old one for fun. Nothing. Not even a click. Sprayed with wd40. Quickly tapped with 9v and eventually started clicking. After a few mijutes sitting. Same noise. Was certainly stuck.

Am going to leave the codes and see if they self clear.
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Originally Posted by Bovineplan
Want to add to this. I kept getting evap codes. Replaced gas cap. No fix. Replaced hoses. No fix. Stumbled on this thread. Took off my vcv and one of the nipples broke off. Was quite brottle. Trip to the pick a part. Found one on a 2003 ls430 and one on a sequoia. Same part number.

Sprayed both down with wd40. Neither allowed the fluid to move through the valve. Saw someone applied 12v to activate it. Used a 9v battery with a couple of aligator clips. One of the valves had a quite audible click. The other didnt at first. Once i fed wd40 it traveled through the valves. Followed with maf cleaner and both make the same click now. A quite audible one.

Tested the broken old one for fun. Nothing. Not even a click. Sprayed with wd40. Quickly tapped with 9v and eventually started clicking. After a few mijutes sitting. Same noise. Was certainly stuck.

Am going to leave the codes and see if they self clear.
My mechanic checked my valve too and found it to be ok but I changed it anyway. The weird problem turned out to be the charcoal canister. It was getting saturated because I was topping off the gas tank when I fill up. When I stopped topping off to the edge of the filler cap, the problem went away. So now when the gas pump clicks off, I just quit filling. I could pack in another gallon by topping off but there is really no benefit. Plus I don't have those weird symptoms and error codes any more.
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Originally Posted by BizEagle
My mechanic checked my valve too and found it to be ok but I changed it anyway. The weird problem turned out to be the charcoal canister. It was getting saturated because I was topping off the gas tank when I fill up. When I stopped topping off to the edge of the filler cap, the problem went away. So now when the gas pump clicks off, I just quit filling. I could pack in another gallon by topping off but there is really no benefit. Plus I don't have those weird symptoms and error codes any more.
I have been guilty of the exact same thing....and because of topping up my gas for so long, I have the nagging P0442 Code for years due to a bad charcoal canister. There is no way in hell, I'll be replacing it do to the labor and cost. Luckily, no emissions in Fl.

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Just stop filling up the tank all the way. Try 3/4 tank for a few weeks and see if the canister dies out. Also, pop the gas cap and let the pressure off after you drive. The goal is to dry out the canister
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Originally Posted by ls430w140
Thanks for great questions.

I used WD-40 as I needed it’s power to clean up and lubricate the interior of the valve. I assumed that 117k miles could ve brought serious build up, therefore more evaporative solutions like MAF sensor cleaner could not have done the job. Do you know if another product is more suitable?

Mileage improvement is definitely taking place, in both average and current numbers. I will post final statistics once the testing period is over.

i couldn’t find specific operational parameters of Denso evap valve, however, to my best understanding, it works in pulse width modulation which may, as you say, consistently close and open valve to reach certain targeted parameters of incoming air amount
Hi, thanks for your post. I am trying to attempt to clean that VSV valve. I don't have WD-40 but have MAF sensor cleaner and throttle body cleaner. can I clean the valve using these cleaners? will this harm the valve? I thought WD-40 was a lubricant but not a cleaner. would using WD-40 harmer the valve? appreciate your answers as I am new to this DIY. never performed it before but the engine is a bit shaky when cold start. I did clean the throttle body and it has some improvement but not helping the cold start. I have a 2001 LS430. Thank you.


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