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Can you replace 04-06 Led Tail lights with 01-03 lights?

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Old 03-19-21, 01:42 PM
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I just bought a 2004 Ls430 and all the tail lights are out except a few of the bottom brake lights on the passenger side corner. As far as I know, the lights are all led except the turn signals and you would have to buy the whole tail light assembly to fix it. I would not like to buy the tail light assembly for them to just burn out again (and it is very expensive). I have read on here that the tail lights on the trunk are different than ones that are on an 01 - 03. I was wondering if at least the ones on the corners would work even though they take more power than the LEDs. If not, then is there a cheaper alternative to fixing these? Please let me know if I am wrong.
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Unfortunately it is not possible to replace 04-06 Led Tail lights with 01-03 lights. The circuit which drives LEDs can't handle the increased current. This is not for everyone but I'd simply fix the original LED tail lights cutting the plastic housing and replace failed LEDs. This requires some technical skills though.
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Perhaps you could use the 01-03 housings but use all LED bulbs to reduce the power consumption???

I’m just guessing but that may work.
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Originally Posted by 04Ultra
Perhaps you could use the 01-03 housings but use all LED bulbs to reduce the power consumption???

I’m just guessing but that may work.
Does anybody know if that might work? It seems like a good idea.
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Thanks for your input. I think I might have the tools to do so and it is certainly worth a shot. Do you know which LEDs I could replace them with?
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The 01-03 tail lights are different physically then the 04+ facelift cars. Not just the incandescent/led difference. They will not fit unless you replace at least the trunk lid, if not more.
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Originally Posted by ChuckLS430
I just bought a 2004 Ls430 and all the tail lights are out except a few of the bottom brake lights on the passenger side corner. As far as I know, the lights are all led except the turn signals and you would have to buy the whole tail light assembly to fix it. I would not like to buy the tail light assembly for them to just burn out again (and it is very expensive). I have read on here that the tail lights on the trunk are different than ones that are on an 01 - 03. I was wondering if at least the ones on the corners would work even though they take more power than the LEDs. If not, then is there a cheaper alternative to fixing these? Please let me know if I am wrong.
Originally Posted by Yamae
Unfortunately it is not possible to replace 04-06 Led Tail lights with 01-03 lights. The circuit which drives LEDs can't handle the increased current. This is not for everyone but I'd simply fix the original LED tail lights cutting the plastic housing and replace failed LEDs. This requires some technical skills though.
When Yamae speaks, LS owners should listen. Perhaps you may also wish to consider reading this: "How to Repair Broken LED Tail Lights" https://www.carsdirect.com/aftermark...ed-tail-lights

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The 01-03 and 04-06 taillights are quite different shapes, so 01-03 lights simply will not fit your 2004.
The 04-06 taillights do seem to be rare and quite expensive on eBay. I only found one set for $615 in the US.

The first thing I would do would be to disconnect each clusters connectors and give the contacts a good clean.
LEDs are quite sensitive to dirty contacts as they don't draw enough current to heat-clean the contacts like regular bulbs do.
Get the contacts nice and clean (any contact cleaner will do), then spray them with a contact cleaner that coats them with a film.
I use Servisol Super 10 but Deoxit D5 is also good.
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Originally Posted by BigBoomer
The 01-03 and 04-06 taillights are quite different shapes, so 01-03 lights simply will not fit your 2004.
The 04-06 taillights do seem to be rare and quite expensive on eBay. I only found one set for $615 in the US.

The first thing I would do would be to disconnect each clusters connectors and give the contacts a good clean.
LEDs are quite sensitive to dirty contacts as they don't draw enough current to heat-clean the contacts like regular bulbs do.
Get the contacts nice and clean (any contact cleaner will do), then spray them with a contact cleaner that coats them with a film.
I use Servisol Super 10 but Deoxit D5 is also good.
Thanks for the advice, I cleaned them today.
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Originally Posted by Yamae
Unfortunately it is not possible to replace 04-06 Led Tail lights with 01-03 lights. The circuit which drives LEDs can't handle the increased current. This is not for everyone but I'd simply fix the original LED tail lights cutting the plastic housing and replace failed LEDs. This requires some technical skills though.

Do you know where I should cut the housing? Or should I take the front part off to access the LEDs?
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Originally Posted by ChuckLS430
Do you know where I should cut the housing? Or should I take the front part off to access the LEDs?
You need to use an ultrasonic cutter and cut the plastic housing as is shown here. But before you tackle, I advise you to check the printed circuit board you showed us. Sometimes it has soldering cracks or open resistors. Anyway the job needs some skills and equipments. There are some companies that do the fixing job in Japan like below. I think there must be some in USA.
https://www.k-modest.com/results-blog/535.html
https://www.goo-net.com/pit/shop/0127230/blog/58838
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