08 LS460 Misfire 5&7
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08 LS460 Misfire 5&7
Good evening, I apologize in advance for the rather long post.
I have a 2008 Lexus Ls460. The car was not running properly when I bought it. It would barely move out of the driveway. Was getting random misfire codes for several cylinders on bank 1. (DRIVER SIDE) I changed all 4 of the ignition coils on bank 1 with Denso coils and changed all 8 of the spark plugs as well. While I was doing that I noticed oil in the galleys so I changed all of the spark plug seals with new seals from Lexus as well.
The car drives great and goes down the highway wonderfully, it still however sputters under load & then throws codes for misfire 5&7.
I swapped the coil packs from cylinders 5&7 to cylinders 6&8 and the codes remain cylinders 5&7 misfire. No change.
This morning i decided to swap the injectors from 5&7 to 1&3 and drive it again. Still misfires 5&7.
I plan on doing a compression test, but as good as this car is driving, I cant help but feel i am missing something simple. Any advice would be appreciated.
I have a 2008 Lexus Ls460. The car was not running properly when I bought it. It would barely move out of the driveway. Was getting random misfire codes for several cylinders on bank 1. (DRIVER SIDE) I changed all 4 of the ignition coils on bank 1 with Denso coils and changed all 8 of the spark plugs as well. While I was doing that I noticed oil in the galleys so I changed all of the spark plug seals with new seals from Lexus as well.
The car drives great and goes down the highway wonderfully, it still however sputters under load & then throws codes for misfire 5&7.
I swapped the coil packs from cylinders 5&7 to cylinders 6&8 and the codes remain cylinders 5&7 misfire. No change.
This morning i decided to swap the injectors from 5&7 to 1&3 and drive it again. Still misfires 5&7.
I plan on doing a compression test, but as good as this car is driving, I cant help but feel i am missing something simple. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Use borescope to check 5&7 inside. If there's oil - that's your misfire. If not - I would check injection system (direct one).
Coils rarely fail on UR-FSE. What's the condition of plugs in 5&7?
Coils rarely fail on UR-FSE. What's the condition of plugs in 5&7?
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I meant ones you took out first. Oily/rich/lean cylinders foul plugs.
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So, different from all other 6? Ok. Borescope is ideal to check 5 and 7 now. Is there oil inside the intake manifold (some is ok, lots is pcv is dead). Also suspected valve stem seals and/or sleeves failure. What oil is used? OCI? Mileage?
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Driven the car around 1500 miles. Not smoking or using any oil. I forget what's in it right now but always changed routinely. 155k miles.
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I'm curious what you find. I had the same cylinders misfire under load. I hooked up an air compressor into the cylinder 5 spark plug hole to pressurize the cylinder (80psi). At times the coolant tank got air bubbles during the test( head gasket leak). Cylinder 7 didn't push any air out. Misfires were not as bad on 7.
I picked up another LS recently it also shows initial signs of a misfire developing, same bank. I don't recall which cylinder. It's not bad enough to feel or throw a cel but I can see the Misfires in techstream. Only during start and while flooring it. I'm thinking head gasket on this one but it may be worn valve guides.
I picked up another LS recently it also shows initial signs of a misfire developing, same bank. I don't recall which cylinder. It's not bad enough to feel or throw a cel but I can see the Misfires in techstream. Only during start and while flooring it. I'm thinking head gasket on this one but it may be worn valve guides.
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Dealer Diagnosis
I went to the dealership today and paid them to do a full diag. They informed me that the catalytic converter on bank one had been cleaned out although not well. They said that the y pipe was clogged and needed to be changed to the tune of $6600.00
of course I didn't let them, but apparently I have a clogged catalytic converter and ypipe.
I'll be looking into this more.
of course I didn't let them, but apparently I have a clogged catalytic converter and ypipe.
I'll be looking into this more.
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I've seen several mentions of lacquer thinner used to clean catalytic converters on YTube. I don't know much other than that. If it works and is safe, seems a cheap and easy way to improve your cat converter situation. As it goes into gas tank, it would also clean entire fuel system and the top and direct injectors.
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I took the injectors off and swapped them around during diagnosis. code remained 5&7. Doesn't appear to be any issue with those injectors.
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Before believing that 'diag' please swap MAF sensors and see if misfire moves.
As to injectors - under load top ones are mostly off. Direct ones deliver all power.
As to injectors - under load top ones are mostly off. Direct ones deliver all power.
Last edited by Boykie; 08-30-23 at 10:00 AM.
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I have cleaned the MAF's but i havent swapped them out. I will try that. Simple enough. Would MAF cause only 5&7 to throw codes?