Sort of a non-tech thread
09-27-23, 06:50 PM
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Sort of a non-tech thread
Public disclosure of sorts.
I'm a little cranky as some may have noticed - that's due to me flying all the way across the globe for a fancy vacation in a paradise setting. But that entailed two sleepless layovers, 5 hr each, obviously 3 long flights and a touch of jetlag to finish it off. Now I'm back to local time and it's all good.
So, disclosure - I'm going to drive my first (ever) Tesla (model Y long range, white) which I rented from this Friday.
There's certain anticipation and trepidation I'm feeling since doing that.
I know a lot of club folk drive or at least tried a Tesla.
So, does it have a potential to ruin me?
Or build quality, noise isolation (including road/tire noise), seat comfort, ride quality is still too far removed from my luxury flagship?
Please, thoughts. I can still cancel and get a beamer or a fresh merc (hate mercs but well....)
Thanks guys!
ps for Gerf: sadly not that direction across the globe. Directly opposite. But it's so nice and sunny here. Step by step.
I'm a little cranky as some may have noticed - that's due to me flying all the way across the globe for a fancy vacation in a paradise setting. But that entailed two sleepless layovers, 5 hr each, obviously 3 long flights and a touch of jetlag to finish it off. Now I'm back to local time and it's all good.
So, disclosure - I'm going to drive my first (ever) Tesla (model Y long range, white) which I rented from this Friday.
There's certain anticipation and trepidation I'm feeling since doing that.
I know a lot of club folk drive or at least tried a Tesla.
So, does it have a potential to ruin me?
Or build quality, noise isolation (including road/tire noise), seat comfort, ride quality is still too far removed from my luxury flagship?
Please, thoughts. I can still cancel and get a beamer or a fresh merc (hate mercs but well....)
Thanks guys!
ps for Gerf: sadly not that direction across the globe. Directly opposite. But it's so nice and sunny here. Step by step.
09-29-23, 10:26 PM
#2
I don't think Model Y will hold water on the long trip if you used to the comfort of the LS. Tesla build quality is not that of the LS either. Please let us know how it works out for you. Enjoy the trip.
09-30-23, 05:38 AM
#3
Instructor
Thread Starter
Thank you. And now is the day after the first Tesla experience of mine. So.
It's a black model Y, long range, dual motor.
First impressions. Oh wow what a CAR. Took a 70 mile trip and 70 miles back, both ends are in towns with traffic.
Omg it pulls. Oh it pulls. Acceleration is brutal compared to anything I'm used to.
Comfort - there is some comfort. Seats are simplistic but ok, nothing special.
Controls - minimalist, had to read thru manual to even turn the hazards on. And by now I've already forgot how to do that haha.
Power capacity/range - got it with 98%, that translated to 580kms (360 miles?). Remaining power reserve metering is quite accurate.
Build quality - yea, not chinese cheap, but still, creaky plastic all over. Tolerable at best.
Soundproofing - obviously lacks it, road noise enters via wheel arches. Again, there's some (no noises coming thru doors etc).
Parking - I was expecting something more advanced than distance indications and a view from 3 cameras. My LS still parks itself if I want it to.
AUTOPILOT suite - mine got Autosteer(beta) and no Nav-on-AP or FullSelfDriving. I was kind of expecting plenty of AI fun.
That, coupled with less than intuitive controls, led to a 'silly goose' moment:
Already on highway I thought (after engaging cruise) 'it's all it's got???' - yes it did do DRCC, as good as my LS, yes it did a little LKA, as my LS does, and..Nothing more. I was kinda miffed, but Ok, I thought, LS with DRCC/LKA spoiled me. But I expected more! That is until I finally pulled the stalk down ENOUGH times and AutoSteer engaged. F me sideways. IT'S STUNNING! I wasn't expecting the car to really take over steering. Not some measly corrections, not some weak assist - blue markers light up and it takes over. For those who aren't Tesla'd yet - you can't turn the steering wheel when it's engaged. It becomes stiff (what's what she said) and resists any steering input. In that mode it finally was impressive to me. Even in slow town traffic with many speed limit changes, traffic lights, speed bumps - it goes thru all that with ease and vigor haha. Only thing manual - I still had to stop at red lights (of course I did experiments but no, if there's no car in front and lights are red - I have a chime but have to stop myself).
Overall - my SECOND car (if it ever comes to that) may very well be a Tesla.
AMA
It's a black model Y, long range, dual motor.
First impressions. Oh wow what a CAR. Took a 70 mile trip and 70 miles back, both ends are in towns with traffic.
Omg it pulls. Oh it pulls. Acceleration is brutal compared to anything I'm used to.
Comfort - there is some comfort. Seats are simplistic but ok, nothing special.
Controls - minimalist, had to read thru manual to even turn the hazards on. And by now I've already forgot how to do that haha.
Power capacity/range - got it with 98%, that translated to 580kms (360 miles?). Remaining power reserve metering is quite accurate.
Build quality - yea, not chinese cheap, but still, creaky plastic all over. Tolerable at best.
Soundproofing - obviously lacks it, road noise enters via wheel arches. Again, there's some (no noises coming thru doors etc).
Parking - I was expecting something more advanced than distance indications and a view from 3 cameras. My LS still parks itself if I want it to.
AUTOPILOT suite - mine got Autosteer(beta) and no Nav-on-AP or FullSelfDriving. I was kind of expecting plenty of AI fun.
That, coupled with less than intuitive controls, led to a 'silly goose' moment:
Already on highway I thought (after engaging cruise) 'it's all it's got???' - yes it did do DRCC, as good as my LS, yes it did a little LKA, as my LS does, and..Nothing more. I was kinda miffed, but Ok, I thought, LS with DRCC/LKA spoiled me. But I expected more! That is until I finally pulled the stalk down ENOUGH times and AutoSteer engaged. F me sideways. IT'S STUNNING! I wasn't expecting the car to really take over steering. Not some measly corrections, not some weak assist - blue markers light up and it takes over. For those who aren't Tesla'd yet - you can't turn the steering wheel when it's engaged. It becomes stiff (what's what she said) and resists any steering input. In that mode it finally was impressive to me. Even in slow town traffic with many speed limit changes, traffic lights, speed bumps - it goes thru all that with ease and vigor haha. Only thing manual - I still had to stop at red lights (of course I did experiments but no, if there's no car in front and lights are red - I have a chime but have to stop myself).
Overall - my SECOND car (if it ever comes to that) may very well be a Tesla.
AMA
Last edited by Boykie; 09-30-23 at 06:20 AM.
09-30-23, 06:06 AM
#4
Lexus Champion
My thoughts are similar other than they don't pull that hard past 30mph vs what I'm used to other than the plaids but that's a given.
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Boykie (09-30-23)
09-30-23, 06:13 AM
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Interesting but not surprising that our LS is so good in so many areas compared to others. I wish mine had self parking, DRCC/LKA. I had a MB with those features and really miss it. I also miss the surround cameras it had. The self driving in the Tesla sounds really impressive. While fast acceleration is impressive, it takes quiet and comfort to impress me as well. If I could afford to lease/buy MB under warranty, that'd be my next choice after the LS. If anyone has test driven the S class full electric MB, I'd like to hear their comparison.
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Boykie (09-30-23)
09-30-23, 07:58 AM
#6
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Most of the people around here driving Teslas darting around in traffic just because they can are Chinese and they're not known for their driving skills to begin with. Can't wait till the roads are full of these cars
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09-30-23, 08:14 AM
#8
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On the subject of quick pick speeds, I think Gerf has a good point about the potential city driving issues caused by "heavy" feet in all electric vehicles. Mfgrs will likely need to add a "eco" button or similar to slow down throttle response times.
09-30-23, 04:21 PM
#9
Instructor
Thread Starter
Adding to the experience (I still have it). First supercharger (from 25% to full) - actually pretty decent (around 35mins total and that included a walk to validate my lot ticket - yea, supercharger in a gated area. Go figure. Ticket validation was free though). And oh my, Tesla 'crowd'. Such posers hahaha. So much VS. Joking - actually felt really welcome, one guy even reminded me to pick a spot with no adjacent car charging (that apparently doubles the time for both by halving current) and pointed out which plug to use for this Y etc. Yea, I was trying to screw the hole with a wrong plug, must've looked real funny to them. "Look at this virgin fumble" or something.
Autosteer is wooooonkyyy. Idk if it's a local thing, but... From now I'm only using it on highway. I mean my LS lka never attempted to aggressively jerk to the left and with huge resistance in steering wheel while me trying to do something!!!take over.
Oh and those turn signals. Not to my liking.
ps. Gerf, bingo. And I'm used to RHD so nothing special.
Autosteer is wooooonkyyy. Idk if it's a local thing, but... From now I'm only using it on highway. I mean my LS lka never attempted to aggressively jerk to the left and with huge resistance in steering wheel while me trying to
Oh and those turn signals. Not to my liking.
ps. Gerf, bingo. And I'm used to RHD so nothing special.
09-30-23, 05:11 PM
#10
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Thread Starter
It has 3 accel modes - Chill, Normal and Performance. I'm on Chill. I also chose 'Hold' accelerator behavior, so it drives like a golf cart, rarely using brake pedal.
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swfla (09-30-23)
10-02-23, 04:12 PM
#11
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Thread Starter
It was short lived, but it was good while it lasted. But I think back at home certain black shiny beast awaits. I think with new brembo calipers installed I will renew my vows.
Paying at the gas station will suuuuck.. Nevermind, soldier on. At least it takes only 3 minutes. Hahaha*cry*
Paying at the gas station will suuuuck.. Nevermind, soldier on. At least it takes only 3 minutes. Hahaha*cry*
10-26-23, 10:25 AM
#12
Instructor
Thread Starter
*shakes head* Telsa-shmesla! What was I thinking?
Lexus. LS. only. End of.
PS. Crappy feeling, that every time I lift my foot ENERGY GOES TO WASTE, is wearing off.
Lexus. LS. only. End of.
PS. Crappy feeling, that every time I lift my foot ENERGY GOES TO WASTE, is wearing off.
10-26-23, 11:00 AM
#13
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From what I've read, in the US, Tesla charging stations are quite dependable and in populated areas, readily available. The other charging companies seem to be having mild to severe issues with cellular connectivity to their servers. Making it impossible to charge your vehicle. Also cited were software and damaged connector issues. We're several years away from dependable and convenient charging. I plan to keep my '13 63k LS longer than that. Barring any unforeseen "disasters". BTW, I have full insurance coverage (including collision) through Costco at $750/yr in CA.
10-26-23, 09:04 PM
#14
One of my other cars is an electric Hyundai. Electric is awesome, but, my LS is miles better. I did test drive the Lexus electric and it was really nice, but the range is absolutely atrocious. In solidarity, LS always!
10-27-23, 09:32 PM
#15
Thank you. And now is the day after the first Tesla experience of mine. So.
It's a black model Y, long range, dual motor.
First impressions. Oh wow what a CAR. Took a 70 mile trip and 70 miles back, both ends are in towns with traffic.
Omg it pulls. Oh it pulls. Acceleration is brutal compared to anything I'm used to.
Comfort - there is some comfort. Seats are simplistic but ok, nothing special.
Controls - minimalist, had to read thru manual to even turn the hazards on. And by now I've already forgot how to do that haha.
Power capacity/range - got it with 98%, that translated to 580kms (360 miles?). Remaining power reserve metering is quite accurate.
Build quality - yea, not chinese cheap, but still, creaky plastic all over. Tolerable at best.
Soundproofing - obviously lacks it, road noise enters via wheel arches. Again, there's some (no noises coming thru doors etc).
Parking - I was expecting something more advanced than distance indications and a view from 3 cameras. My LS still parks itself if I want it to.
AUTOPILOT suite - mine got Autosteer(beta) and no Nav-on-AP or FullSelfDriving. I was kind of expecting plenty of AI fun.
That, coupled with less than intuitive controls, led to a 'silly goose' moment:
Already on highway I thought (after engaging cruise) 'it's all it's got???' - yes it did do DRCC, as good as my LS, yes it did a little LKA, as my LS does, and..Nothing more. I was kinda miffed, but Ok, I thought, LS with DRCC/LKA spoiled me. But I expected more! That is until I finally pulled the stalk down ENOUGH times and AutoSteer engaged. F me sideways. IT'S STUNNING! I wasn't expecting the car to really take over steering. Not some measly corrections, not some weak assist - blue markers light up and it takes over. For those who aren't Tesla'd yet - you can't turn the steering wheel when it's engaged. It becomes stiff (what's what she said) and resists any steering input. In that mode it finally was impressive to me. Even in slow town traffic with many speed limit changes, traffic lights, speed bumps - it goes thru all that with ease and vigor haha. Only thing manual - I still had to stop at red lights (of course I did experiments but no, if there's no car in front and lights are red - I have a chime but have to stop myself).
Overall - my SECOND car (if it ever comes to that) may very well be a Tesla.
AMA
It's a black model Y, long range, dual motor.
First impressions. Oh wow what a CAR. Took a 70 mile trip and 70 miles back, both ends are in towns with traffic.
Omg it pulls. Oh it pulls. Acceleration is brutal compared to anything I'm used to.
Comfort - there is some comfort. Seats are simplistic but ok, nothing special.
Controls - minimalist, had to read thru manual to even turn the hazards on. And by now I've already forgot how to do that haha.
Power capacity/range - got it with 98%, that translated to 580kms (360 miles?). Remaining power reserve metering is quite accurate.
Build quality - yea, not chinese cheap, but still, creaky plastic all over. Tolerable at best.
Soundproofing - obviously lacks it, road noise enters via wheel arches. Again, there's some (no noises coming thru doors etc).
Parking - I was expecting something more advanced than distance indications and a view from 3 cameras. My LS still parks itself if I want it to.
AUTOPILOT suite - mine got Autosteer(beta) and no Nav-on-AP or FullSelfDriving. I was kind of expecting plenty of AI fun.
That, coupled with less than intuitive controls, led to a 'silly goose' moment:
Already on highway I thought (after engaging cruise) 'it's all it's got???' - yes it did do DRCC, as good as my LS, yes it did a little LKA, as my LS does, and..Nothing more. I was kinda miffed, but Ok, I thought, LS with DRCC/LKA spoiled me. But I expected more! That is until I finally pulled the stalk down ENOUGH times and AutoSteer engaged. F me sideways. IT'S STUNNING! I wasn't expecting the car to really take over steering. Not some measly corrections, not some weak assist - blue markers light up and it takes over. For those who aren't Tesla'd yet - you can't turn the steering wheel when it's engaged. It becomes stiff (what's what she said) and resists any steering input. In that mode it finally was impressive to me. Even in slow town traffic with many speed limit changes, traffic lights, speed bumps - it goes thru all that with ease and vigor haha. Only thing manual - I still had to stop at red lights (of course I did experiments but no, if there's no car in front and lights are red - I have a chime but have to stop myself).
Overall - my SECOND car (if it ever comes to that) may very well be a Tesla.
AMA
what does Chinese cheap means? Have you ever driven in the Chinese car before?
If so, what model and brand