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Old 12-04-23, 07:21 AM
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Default I am looking for a quality air shock for my LS600h (2008)

I need rear right air shock for my 2008 LS600h.
What about these are offers?
Do you know any of them?
Aerosus
EBAY offer
Or do you have any other idea?
Maybe I have to buy genuine from EMIRATES ?
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Many threads here about replacing air shocks. The consensus is that only Lexus OEM will allow full function of shocks and the computerized suspension system. Any others fail to perform fully, leaving dash lights on and other issues. Do a search here. Others may post as well. Emirates or Amayama (Japan) for OEM. Are you certain it's the shock and not an air line or other component? If it is a shock, I suggest both rears at same time. They both have the same wear and weight.

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Rear rights are first to go usually on LWBs that were used as a boss hauler. OEM is the only way to go here.
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Especially if the boss is obese!
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I was under the impression that the LS600's had different OEM PN's than the LWB LS460 AWD's, is that true? I recall reading somewhere on the forum that they are bespoke to all 600's?
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Long story short - yes, correct. But best way is to always VIN match parts (preferably via EPC or TMC MicroCat) to the particular vehicle. PNs changed, even within same body type, numerous times, as well as airstruts vary across different markets.
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BTW, the rear seating requires removal. makes more sense to replace both rears simultaneously to save on labor and wear on seat connectors and other guts. Amayama.com offers great pricing on these OEM air shocks for USA market.

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I got an OEM front shock from Triple Creations on ebay. $800 with shipping.

Very simple to change yourself. But you do need an alignment afterwards. Took me about 80 minutes.
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Look up arnott air bags
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Originally Posted by lexus13dan
Look up arnott air bags
That would be a dire mistake.
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Agree with Boykie 100%. OP should do a search on the forum for threads on this subject. Then can decide if the incomplete functionality of aftermarket is something he's OK with vs the cost savings. I say keeping the car for another few years cancels out the extra cost of OEM parts. Plus there's no issues when it's time to sell.
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+1 to buying OEM from 'triplecreations' on eBay. It looks like you're in Hungary, so shipping should also be a lot cheaper than it is to those of us in the US.

At this point I've replaced all four struts on my '08 600h, but I feel it was money well spent. The car rides like new with no suspension noise. I don't mind the cost for a quality car that will likely serve for some time to come (still less than 100k miles).

As mentioned, if you're doing one rear, do both. The fronts are pretty easy, but the rear struts require seat removal and interior access to the top strut mount; you don't want to do that more than once. Also, don't mess with the axle nuts as you can get the struts out without removing the nuts. Just unbolt control arms at the steering knuckle/wheel hub end and the struts should lower enough to pull out.
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What is it that actually fails with the shocks and can they be built to last a lot longer without failure?
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They are built to last. People just use heavy sedans for off roading at high speeds, then sell. On my LS430 at 300k miles all shocks were still original. On my previous 460 originals lasted lifetime of the car (150ish k miles).
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Originally Posted by Tdes395
What is it that actually fails with the shocks and can they be built to last a lot longer without failure?
It's a junk design with exposed air bellows, hasn't changed since the LS400 and they aren't even rebuildable.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/176061687018?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=176061687018&targetid=1645685074488&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1023631&poi=&campaignid=20133407470&mkgroupid=147476396765&rlsatarget=pla-1645685074488&abcId=9312979&merchantid=6296724&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh9z_zdXLi8IDZMAHHkztBEg4&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5PTpr-2PgwMV7jbUAR2M7QHgEAQYAiABEgLUMfD_BwE

You can see the rubber exposed on the bottom with no guards and the slip over configuration of the upper half over the bag. The bottom frays and fails and the rubber is always exposed to elements.

https://rebuildmastertech.com/audi-a8-quattro-d4-4h-2010-2018-rear-left-and-right-oem-rebuild-suspension-air-struts-pair-4h0616002/?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIl4K9gO6PgwMVu5taBR32rgr2EAQYAiABEgLFLPD_BwE

Vs these that are totally enclosed, have a metal and sealed section that contains the actual airbag, and are rebuildable. However the difference is the Germans actually vastly improved their air suspensions generation to generation since it's STANDARD on all their cars of this level. This forces far better design and more importantly aftermarket support and ability to rebuild, Lexus still offers coil spring suspension to this day on the LS500.

Due to it being an option Lexus is still using a mid 90s design of strut, and as a result I've replaced a TON of air struts on Lexus cars. I've only ever replaced struts on first gen German systems like the W220 and D3, and those have access to updated version that I have personally seen do 120k on one of the W220s with zero issues.

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