six more days until the ls460
01-04-06, 10:01 AM
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Here's my wish list for the next gen LS:
More power - 360HP should be the minimum in this class of car
More responsive tranny - make it adaptive and quicker to repsond to inputs. Current one is lazy.
Better Bluetooth response/integration and ipod integration - that should be easy stuff.
Power trunk open and close - should've had that from the start - at least on the UL.
Nav and phone while in motion - the other makes have it and lawsuits haven't gound our legal system to a halt. What's the big deal?
Did I say more power?? Where is that AMG-like model we've hear about? And I don't mean more power via the hybrid stuff - too costly.
Bruce
More power - 360HP should be the minimum in this class of car
More responsive tranny - make it adaptive and quicker to repsond to inputs. Current one is lazy.
Better Bluetooth response/integration and ipod integration - that should be easy stuff.
Power trunk open and close - should've had that from the start - at least on the UL.
Nav and phone while in motion - the other makes have it and lawsuits haven't gound our legal system to a halt. What's the big deal?
Did I say more power?? Where is that AMG-like model we've hear about? And I don't mean more power via the hybrid stuff - too costly.
Bruce
01-04-06, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BMcD430
Did I say more power?? Where is that AMG-like model we've hear about? And I don't mean more power via the hybrid stuff - too costly.
I do wish the LS would have a V10 or V12 though, with a revised suspension for more sportiness. Just extra power via larger displacement or electric motor won't make it a real AMG competitor . . .
01-04-06, 11:29 AM
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True - if it's to be a real AMG or M type of car it would have to be the whole package - drivetrain, susupension, brakes, body styling, etc. But I'll take the power first! And make the darn thing SOUND like a V8!
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01-04-06, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AmethySC
Just based on the RX330 vs. RX400h pricing, the hybrid motor is only $3-4K over the regular, so I think a hybrid LS can be priced only a few thousand dollars more than the gasoline model. That's way less than the AMG/M models ove their regular Benz / bimmer models.
I do wish the LS would have a V10 or V12 though, with a revised suspension for more sportiness. Just extra power via larger displacement or electric motor won't make it a real AMG competitor . . .
I do wish the LS would have a V10 or V12 though, with a revised suspension for more sportiness. Just extra power via larger displacement or electric motor won't make it a real AMG competitor . . .
same here i would love to see v10 and v12 from toyota, but with their current game plan, and that they are pushing for hybrid for future, i don't think it's coming. the v8 hybrid will be quite a bit cheaper and lexus can make more money imho
01-04-06, 02:59 PM
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I wouldn't count on dialing in motion, Lexus has said that safety is #1, even over convenience...
...but I hope there's an easier workaround, or the ability to voice command enter info, like on the New IS.
Lexus will have LIVE streaming press coverage from Detroit during the LS reveal, 12:25 pm on 1/8/2006 according to www.lexus.com!
...but I hope there's an easier workaround, or the ability to voice command enter info, like on the New IS.
Lexus will have LIVE streaming press coverage from Detroit during the LS reveal, 12:25 pm on 1/8/2006 according to www.lexus.com!
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01-04-06, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rominl
yup, that's why i am really looking forward to the ls600h. hopefully it's a 5.0L v8 plus hibrid pushing around 500hp, and yet having gas mileage of around 30mph. i will cry
same here i would love to see v10 and v12 from toyota, but with their current game plan, and that they are pushing for hybrid for future, i don't think it's coming. the v8 hybrid will be quite a bit cheaper and lexus can make more money imho
same here i would love to see v10 and v12 from toyota, but with their current game plan, and that they are pushing for hybrid for future, i don't think it's coming. the v8 hybrid will be quite a bit cheaper and lexus can make more money imho
500 hp with 30 mpg hybrid is somewhat of an oxymoron. Keep in mind that the real fuel economy on a hybrid is best attained in city driving and is almost entirely gone in higher speed driving. This is a case where you can't have your cake and eat it because what good is 500hp in city driving? I already know the answer --- it is only there for you to imagine what you can do when you can get on the highway.
01-05-06, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearlpower
Considering this is the flagship ,Lexus cannot make a mistake. I am sure it will be a good one. Make us proud Lexus. 
01-06-06, 12:28 AM
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According to this publication...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/63...is_on_way.html
8 speed and special air suspension are some of the New LS' unique features!
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/63...is_on_way.html
8 speed and special air suspension are some of the New LS' unique features!
01-06-06, 11:01 AM
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"Eight-speed Lexus is on way
Gear we go again... In a world first, the Lexus LS460 luxury car is set to re-write the rulebooks with an eight-speed automatic box.
It will debut at next week's Detroit Motor Show, and rival the all-new Mercedes S-Class, which only has a seven-ratio self-shifter.
Love it or eight it, the LS460's smart styling will be based on the Lexus LF-Sh concept which was displayed at last year's Tokyo exhibition. The newcomer is expected to provide class-leading refinement, with an advanced 4.6-litre V8 pumping out more than 370hp and 500Nm of torque.
The clever box isn't the new model's only hi-tech feature. The company has confirmed that the flagship will use a special air-suspension set-up in a bid to steal sales from its European rivals.
Despite its superior refinement, the biggest Lexus has traditionally lagged behind its Continental competitors dynamically - but that could all change with the latest machine. There may even be a long-wheelbase variant to tackle the extended BMW 7-Series and Mercedes S-Class models, although there are no plans for a diesel. Instead, the big range-topper is set to become the first-ever hybrid luxury car.
Set to debut at the New York Motor Show in April, the hybrid will boast a 5.0-litre V8 rumoured to generate 450bhp with the aid of a Toyota Prius-style electric motor. The entry-level LS460 is expected to go on sale in November, starting from around £50,000.
Ross Pinnock"
I hope this article is a reliable source. The specs posted sounds absolutely amazing.
Gear we go again... In a world first, the Lexus LS460 luxury car is set to re-write the rulebooks with an eight-speed automatic box.
It will debut at next week's Detroit Motor Show, and rival the all-new Mercedes S-Class, which only has a seven-ratio self-shifter.
Love it or eight it, the LS460's smart styling will be based on the Lexus LF-Sh concept which was displayed at last year's Tokyo exhibition. The newcomer is expected to provide class-leading refinement, with an advanced 4.6-litre V8 pumping out more than 370hp and 500Nm of torque.
The clever box isn't the new model's only hi-tech feature. The company has confirmed that the flagship will use a special air-suspension set-up in a bid to steal sales from its European rivals.
Despite its superior refinement, the biggest Lexus has traditionally lagged behind its Continental competitors dynamically - but that could all change with the latest machine. There may even be a long-wheelbase variant to tackle the extended BMW 7-Series and Mercedes S-Class models, although there are no plans for a diesel. Instead, the big range-topper is set to become the first-ever hybrid luxury car.
Set to debut at the New York Motor Show in April, the hybrid will boast a 5.0-litre V8 rumoured to generate 450bhp with the aid of a Toyota Prius-style electric motor. The entry-level LS460 is expected to go on sale in November, starting from around £50,000.
Ross Pinnock"
I hope this article is a reliable source. The specs posted sounds absolutely amazing.
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01-06-06, 02:34 PM
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From Edmunds.com
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef3fc23!conflimit=.ef0d616&make=Lexus&model=LS%20430&ed_makeindex=.ef3fc23
Dear lexus lovers,
the all new ls will have a 4.6L engine, that delivers about 370 HP, and about 500Nm of torque.
the trany will be industrial first 8 speed auto, promising thrilling acceleration and fuel eco.
the interior will be designed as a yacht interior, there will be alot of wood panels, along with polished chrome,
the design will be all new, along with the state of art new tech optitrone like gauges, but it will use LCD technology, like the one presented in the LFX,
all the options in the GS430 will be offered and mostly standard,
new things like LKA, driver attention system, new level PCS, new developed VDIM, new xenon system, along with better airbags (about 12) and a hybrid system that is due to production as a 2008 model, the hybrid will be at least 450HP, with acceleration in the late 4.
a new much advanced rain sensing wipers (to those said) will be introduced, and finally how it looks,
well, my sources told me that it will carry around 90% like the concept, the exhaust is to be below the trunk, the grill to be changes, and the bangle's butt to be minimized more,
the suspension will be of advanced air suspension that can outrun the germans in performance, but it wont use the Bose system becoz lexus wanted more tests before they can introduce it to their flagship.
the wheels will be standard 18, and optional 19 along with a sport tuned version (to be shown later), the wheels wont be of chrome type, it will have similar wheels that GS430 has (similar material).
the car will be available in dealers in augest for the customers to see (ONLY LOYAL CUSTOMERS) and it will set on sales late oct.
My sources told me alot of things but he said he is not sure 100% becoz Japanese are very careful with such things.
some of the rumors?? (maybe yes or no):
it will have a new ML system, that boosts 18 speakers, makes the car a moving theater. no TV in nav, but it plays every CD u have (DVD audio, video, super audio and so)
it will be 7.1 DTS, they are looking for THX certificate, but they promise, this system will be the most advanced audiosystem in a car. (lol, B&O)
nightvision is be available but how it works we dont know. well this is not yet confirmed but they mentioned something about the nightvision in that it can detect if they is anything that moves in the screen and so warnes you so u dont have to look at the screen all the way, but this is not confimred guys, only he said thats what they were saying, maybe they are testing it!?
All i can say, is within the next 2 days, Germans including MB, BM, and Audi will cry out loud, becoz their cars compared to the new LS will be a complete TRASH!!
concerning the price, the base will have at least 3K increase and there wont be alot of optional gizmo.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef3fc23!conflimit=.ef0d616&make=Lexus&model=LS%20430&ed_makeindex=.ef3fc23
Dear lexus lovers,
the all new ls will have a 4.6L engine, that delivers about 370 HP, and about 500Nm of torque.
the trany will be industrial first 8 speed auto, promising thrilling acceleration and fuel eco.
the interior will be designed as a yacht interior, there will be alot of wood panels, along with polished chrome,
the design will be all new, along with the state of art new tech optitrone like gauges, but it will use LCD technology, like the one presented in the LFX,
all the options in the GS430 will be offered and mostly standard,
new things like LKA, driver attention system, new level PCS, new developed VDIM, new xenon system, along with better airbags (about 12) and a hybrid system that is due to production as a 2008 model, the hybrid will be at least 450HP, with acceleration in the late 4.
a new much advanced rain sensing wipers (to those said) will be introduced, and finally how it looks,
well, my sources told me that it will carry around 90% like the concept, the exhaust is to be below the trunk, the grill to be changes, and the bangle's butt to be minimized more,
the suspension will be of advanced air suspension that can outrun the germans in performance, but it wont use the Bose system becoz lexus wanted more tests before they can introduce it to their flagship.
the wheels will be standard 18, and optional 19 along with a sport tuned version (to be shown later), the wheels wont be of chrome type, it will have similar wheels that GS430 has (similar material).
the car will be available in dealers in augest for the customers to see (ONLY LOYAL CUSTOMERS) and it will set on sales late oct.
My sources told me alot of things but he said he is not sure 100% becoz Japanese are very careful with such things.
some of the rumors?? (maybe yes or no):
it will have a new ML system, that boosts 18 speakers, makes the car a moving theater. no TV in nav, but it plays every CD u have (DVD audio, video, super audio and so)
it will be 7.1 DTS, they are looking for THX certificate, but they promise, this system will be the most advanced audiosystem in a car. (lol, B&O)
nightvision is be available but how it works we dont know. well this is not yet confirmed but they mentioned something about the nightvision in that it can detect if they is anything that moves in the screen and so warnes you so u dont have to look at the screen all the way, but this is not confimred guys, only he said thats what they were saying, maybe they are testing it!?
All i can say, is within the next 2 days, Germans including MB, BM, and Audi will cry out loud, becoz their cars compared to the new LS will be a complete TRASH!!
concerning the price, the base will have at least 3K increase and there wont be alot of optional gizmo.
01-06-06, 03:24 PM
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OMG, if only half of that were true and this would be a runaway hit!!!!
"Yacht interior" with even more wood, sounds good as long as it keeps to the 3GS's more futuristic take on wood and leather!!!
And, interesting that 'yacht interior' is a trend these days, some of the top executive aircraft cabins and airlines are rolling out new 'yacht interior' designs for their top-of-the-line interiors.
OMG, if only half of that were true and this would be a runaway hit!!!!
"Yacht interior" with even more wood, sounds good as long as it keeps to the 3GS's more futuristic take on wood and leather!!!
And, interesting that 'yacht interior' is a trend these days, some of the top executive aircraft cabins and airlines are rolling out new 'yacht interior' designs for their top-of-the-line interiors.
01-06-06, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BrickHead
All i can say, is within the next 2 days, Germans including MB, BM, and Audi will cry out loud, becoz their cars compared to the new LS will be a complete TRASH!!
Not sure how this new air suspension on the new LS compares with the active body control of the top of the line S class . . .
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