Helmar

To replace my 2003 LS430, I have a deposit on a LS600hL, but the bad news keeps coming.....

First, it was that a SWB 600h wouldn't be available.

Now, I'm hearing that the trunk is tiny and the cost may be $140K.

I'm thinking I may just end up with an LS460. (Just?)

I guess I'll need to figure out which packages to avoid so that the trunk space isn't reduced by a rear-seat air conditioner.

(Sigh). I sure would enjoy all of that power and pizzazz of the LS600hL, not to mention the AWD which I need here in New England.

HBH

rominl

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well no matter how you see it, all those stuff you read are nothing but rumors (including comments from me). so might as well sit back, relax, and wait for the car to come out and see more details yourself.

and imho
1) thank god no swb for ls600h. that's top of the line lexus, lwb for sure.
2) trunk is tiny, that's defintiely a bummer imho. especially if they have spare tire
3) 140k? we will see. if that's the price, lexus is sill

Gojirra99

Yeah, I've had it with all the info Lexus people have been telling our members in dealerships, events etc. recently that turned out to be totally bogus

dfiorito

Also, remember that the Batteries for the Hybrid are stored in the trunk. So you have the batteries and the cooler if optioned.

Between those 2 things, you might be able to carry a notebook.

The trunk on the GS450h is ridiculous.

GSteg

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I doubt the price will be $140K. I see $110k tops, but more than that, Lexus has gone off course. People would be more willing to put money down on an S600 before the LS600h. I dont think lexus would want to play that game yet.

encore888

Have you considered waiting for the LS 460 AWD?

Helmar

If I don't get the LS600hL, an AWD LS460 would be ideal, but as far as I know, the AWD LS460 is only a rumor.

HBH

azmike

We are in the same boat. A tiny trunk on a high end luxury sedan is a deal-breaker for me. I need room for 2 golf bags anyway.

spwolf

I am not so sure about tiny trunk... people forget few things - problem in GS is packaging, and there was simply no space anywhere to put the batteries, hence GS450h being sold around the world as hard to get, limited model... It seems to me that Hybrid solution was never thought of when platform was made...

on the other hand, in RX400h, you lose no space at all, because there was enough space to put batteries somewhere... As Lexus has it in press release that LS600h will be 70% of sales of LS in Europe, I very much doubt that it will have 7cu ft trunk.

As to the 140k... thats bull crap.

encore888

Media reps at recent press events for the LS 460 have stated that an AWD version of the LS 460 will happen, but wheelbase is yet to be released:

http://cars.about.com/od/lexus/fr/jj_07lexusls460.htm

http://www.thecarconnection.com/Vehi...83.A10792.html

But you will have to wait for the 2008 model year:

http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/LexusLS460/

However, given that the LS 600h L is a 2008 model year car, and the LS 460 AWD coming possibly right on the heels...you might have more options, and some good news!

ultraseven

140k? AMG all the way

bitkahuna

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Well with the rear seat cooler it's down to 12cu.ft without the batteries.

GFerg

For some reason I always thought they were misinformed and were talking about the LS600hl. Info just didnt seem that convincing IMO. But it makes perfect sense to offer an AWD LS460.

Gojirra99

I think there's a possibility that the media reps are mistaken too, I won't necessarily trust them 100% as reliable sources of info, although I hope they offer AWD for all new LS models, & they should make RWD available for the LS600hL as well . . .

encore888

Maybe, but the FamilyCar.com article and others have mentioned that the LS 600h L will have AWD, and then that an AWD system will be made available in the LS 460 as well but not initially. If they got confused it's a pretty big slipup, but they mentioned the sequence--ONLY 600h L for the 2007-2008 model years, and then the LS 460 AWD (wheelbase tba) around 2008-2009 at the earliest.