My LS damanged by dealer during service
#1
Rookie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: California
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I turned my LS460L in for my very first oil change. When I got back to pick it up I was informed that there was an accident. Long story short - the front of the car was damaged. The hood, the grill, the lights, the bumper, etc. They've estimated that it'd take them at least 2 weeks to fix.
I have serviced my Lexus cars there for about 9 years and their service has been nothing but excellence. That's why I got two new cars ( GS and LS ) last year.
However, I'm wondering about what I should be offered for this whole problem. I mean, besides the fact that I'll be out of my car for a while, when it'll be returned - it WILL BE a car that pretty much was in an accident. What would be fair?
I have serviced my Lexus cars there for about 9 years and their service has been nothing but excellence. That's why I got two new cars ( GS and LS ) last year.
However, I'm wondering about what I should be offered for this whole problem. I mean, besides the fact that I'll be out of my car for a while, when it'll be returned - it WILL BE a car that pretty much was in an accident. What would be fair?
#2
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (3)
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I really don't know what to tell you, but you should probably arrange a meeting with the owner/manager of the dealership and talk to him about it. Tell him that you have bought/serviced cars there for nine years, and while you do appreciate their willingness to repair your car, it is also a brand new vehicle and your resale will undeniably be impacted in the long run. Considering your history of business, the situation, and the price of your car, I think you have the right to ask for a new car. Also the painting process for this car is so unique, that I don't know if a body shop or anyone could really produce a "factory" finish like it had before.
All in all, if they repair the car then you probably are doing alright though it truthfully will affect your resale in the long run.
All in all, if they repair the car then you probably are doing alright though it truthfully will affect your resale in the long run.
#3
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Diminished value! I personally would demand for a new car. Front end accidents change a car completely. It will never be the same, especially if it would take 2 weeks to fix.
If the dealer wont do the new car, definately get some compensation for the diminished value.
If the dealer wont do the new car, definately get some compensation for the diminished value.
#4
Super Moderator
![](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/ranks/rank-smod2.gif)
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Wow, that's really sad to hear
. If I were you, I really won't be happy if they don't offer you a new car, given that your car is so new & they did some heavy damage to it.
![Sad](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/sad.gif)
#5
Moderator
![](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/ranks/rank-mod2.gif)
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,050
Likes: 0
Received 73 Likes
on
44 Posts
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
i had a similar story. I got a phone call expecting them to tell me that my car was ready. Instead, they said that while the car was in the washing process, they hit my rear bumper. Well, they basically told me to keep the loaner car that i had, and i could pick it up in a few days.
I actually was pretty happy with that because they repainted my bumper that wasnt in prestine condition. Well when i went to pick it up, they did not charge me for my brake pad change (at least 300 dollars there) and gave me 20% off my service.
I left with a smile.
i know your situation is worse since you a) have a new car and b) the damage is more server, but im sure they will give you something. If they dont, then confront them
I actually was pretty happy with that because they repainted my bumper that wasnt in prestine condition. Well when i went to pick it up, they did not charge me for my brake pad change (at least 300 dollars there) and gave me 20% off my service.
I left with a smile.
i know your situation is worse since you a) have a new car and b) the damage is more server, but im sure they will give you something. If they dont, then confront them
#6
Rookie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: California
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I should mention that I don't think the actual engine or any of the insides ( except for maybe sensors ) were damaged. Plus, do you really think that they'll just give me a new car in exchange for a 5K mi one? What about the free service for the remaining term of my lease ( which is about 2 years and 9 months )? Would that be reasonable?
#7
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
id say they pay to have an independant assess the level of damage and pull up a diminished value figure. if its ONLY bodywork then i wouldnt worry too much but if they end up repainting half the bloody car then obviously there will be issues since i HIGHLY DOUBT that they will pay to have the car re-painted the way it was painted at the factory (many many coats+wetsand).
personally id push for either massive cash compensation (and i mean 10kish+diminished value) or more preferrably a new car.
and everyone needs to keep in mind that its going to take a while to get new bodyparts for a LS460 from japan, as i doubt dealers stock those.
personally id push for either massive cash compensation (and i mean 10kish+diminished value) or more preferrably a new car.
and everyone needs to keep in mind that its going to take a while to get new bodyparts for a LS460 from japan, as i doubt dealers stock those.
Trending Topics
#13
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
I should mention that I don't think the actual engine or any of the insides ( except for maybe sensors ) were damaged. Plus, do you really think that they'll just give me a new car in exchange for a 5K mi one? What about the free service for the remaining term of my lease ( which is about 2 years and 9 months )? Would that be reasonable?
Still, I know how frustrated you must be. Mine was hit last week on the freeway. Mostly cosmetic, but the rear bumper will need to be replaced and the driver's side rear quarter-panel is buckled by the wheel well and will need to be re-finished and painted. I am very concerned about the paint not being up to factory quality, but the Toyota colission center swears that it will be no probelm and they guarantee the paint for the life of the car. We'll see.
Good luck.
#14
Lexus Champion
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Since it is a lease car 'diminished value' isn't important to you. But I would get it in writing that absolutely no end of lease charges will be made in conjunction with this damage. It is to their account only. And you could try to push for them to waive all end of lease damage. That would be a fair thing to do on their part.
#15
![Default](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/icons/icon1.gif)
Didn't realize it was a lease.
Regardless, you will be leased a damaged car. Perhaps they can pay $100 or so per month of your lease. If I were you, I would go look at the car prior to them fixing it. Take pictures and document the damage. Many times the dealers will tell you the damage is one thing, and then it turns out to be much worse. If there is frame damage, I would not touch that car, lease or not.
BTW, good paint shops can do a much better paint job than this factory one. It is great for factory, but not great for a high end paint shop.
Regardless, you will be leased a damaged car. Perhaps they can pay $100 or so per month of your lease. If I were you, I would go look at the car prior to them fixing it. Take pictures and document the damage. Many times the dealers will tell you the damage is one thing, and then it turns out to be much worse. If there is frame damage, I would not touch that car, lease or not.
BTW, good paint shops can do a much better paint job than this factory one. It is great for factory, but not great for a high end paint shop.