Who is fasters ? LS 460 ? LS 460 L ( 5 passenger ) ? LS 460 L ( 4 passenger )
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Who is faster ? LS 460 ? LS 460 L ( 5 passenger ) ? LS 460 L ( 4 passenger )
Anyone commenting please support your answers with some theory.
Last edited by uae; 08-10-07 at 11:09 AM.
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My theory is the more loaded with options the car, the slower it is, since it's heavier. I would think a base LS460L should be marginally slower than a base LS460, & a loaded LS460L with the executive package, which should be the heaviest of all, should be the slowest. I doubt you can really feel significant difference though.
#3
The one with less passengers, but the key things are the assumptions.
We are assuming all passengers are of equal weight and situated in a way that distributes their weight equally. In addition, the launch of each vehicle off the line must also be equal. Moreover, the air pressure, temperature and humidity among other things of the air going into the engine must be the same.
In other words, all else being equal, the one with less weight will win.
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In the world of the 1/4 mile, I can add an interesting situation I and others have encountered and quite common.
1. Let us suppose you run 15 seconds on a solo run (no competition).
2. You add a passenger and now you have another car running against you. You also run 15 seconds.
What gives?
1. Minor point. Passenger helps distribute the center of gravity better to keep the car going straighter (instead of having to make a slight correction with the steering wheel).
2. Minor point. Psychological, you have competition, you concentrate better on the launch and if stick, your shifts are better, but we will assume this is an automatic transmission
3. Major point. Two vehicles are breaking the air in front of them, thus less resistance than if just one car were running down the track.
We are assuming all passengers are of equal weight and situated in a way that distributes their weight equally. In addition, the launch of each vehicle off the line must also be equal. Moreover, the air pressure, temperature and humidity among other things of the air going into the engine must be the same.
In other words, all else being equal, the one with less weight will win.
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In the world of the 1/4 mile, I can add an interesting situation I and others have encountered and quite common.
1. Let us suppose you run 15 seconds on a solo run (no competition).
2. You add a passenger and now you have another car running against you. You also run 15 seconds.
What gives?
1. Minor point. Passenger helps distribute the center of gravity better to keep the car going straighter (instead of having to make a slight correction with the steering wheel).
2. Minor point. Psychological, you have competition, you concentrate better on the launch and if stick, your shifts are better, but we will assume this is an automatic transmission
3. Major point. Two vehicles are breaking the air in front of them, thus less resistance than if just one car were running down the track.
#5
Since the cars are identical in engine and transmission, there are only three variables - weight, tires and manufacturing variables.
Weight - The lighter vehicle will be faster.
Tires - In the case of the LS, Bridgestones may be a little faster or slower than Dunlops (assuming the same dimensions and speed rating). Of course they could also be identical in performance.
Manufacturing variables - Even two identical SWBs or two identical LWBs can have slight variations such that one is 100ths of a second faster than the other.
Taking these variables into consideration and allowing that there will be exceptions, SWBs are faster than LWBs.
Weight - The lighter vehicle will be faster.
Tires - In the case of the LS, Bridgestones may be a little faster or slower than Dunlops (assuming the same dimensions and speed rating). Of course they could also be identical in performance.
Manufacturing variables - Even two identical SWBs or two identical LWBs can have slight variations such that one is 100ths of a second faster than the other.
Taking these variables into consideration and allowing that there will be exceptions, SWBs are faster than LWBs.
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The LS460L Executive Package has the fully reclining rear seat with shiatsu massager, as well as the Rear Seat Entertainment System, cooler box, etc.
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