Nav Lockout - A deal breaker
#32
I don't know where you live, but in my parts 90% of the driving is on freeways. There are no traffic lights and it is very unsafe to stop on the shoulder, not to mention that some people were already ticketed for it. Taking an exit just to change the destination is quite inconveniet.
I have a Garmin unit on my other car and I have no problems using it without taking my eyes off the road for more than a quick glance. If I look at the screen for longer than a second I feel very uncomortable. I assume that there are some people that simply don't feel the danger of blind driving and this motion lock-out will probably save their asses.
I have a Garmin unit on my other car and I have no problems using it without taking my eyes off the road for more than a quick glance. If I look at the screen for longer than a second I feel very uncomortable. I assume that there are some people that simply don't feel the danger of blind driving and this motion lock-out will probably save their asses.
#33
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But there are instances where you change your mind or something comes up at the last minute and have to go elsewhere
And how long is a stop light?
I sure don't want any incompetent person fumbling with the nav anyways.
The nav lockout doesn't bother me anyways, but at the very least to enable it when a front passenger is sitting there. They can do the input while I drive.
#34
Lexus Champion
it's probably in the work now.. a lockpick for the 08LS460... LS460 is so far superior to the E-class and 550i, this should be a very easy choice... now if your're compare the 750li and S550, that's a different story...
#36
1. Find the next gas station on the route
2. Find the next major gas station that accepts credit cards (some don't)
3. See a list of restaurants in the city ahead without exiting the freeway
4. Find a nearest XXXXX store because your wife just called you and asked to buy a YYYYY.
5. Get a list of the hotels in the destination city and call them one by one for reservations while driving.
6. See a list of albums in the HDD instead of scrolling through it one album at a time (which is more dangerous)
Basically it is not the lock-out that bothers me the most. It is the inability to see a simple list and choose from that list. IMHO it is unreasonably restrictive to the point of total uselessness.
I don't mind saying "Find nearest gas station", but I want to see a list of stations with distance and direction. It is a single glance and a single tap on the screen. It is no less safe than looking for a radio station or scrolling the map, trying to find the gas stations via the POI icons.
Good thing we have an override solution now. But I would not buy another Lexus simply because I was treated like an idiot. Cars of this caliber aren't just rides. They have to be loved, not hated. And some people love LS460 for other things and don't mind having a crippled nav.
#37
Some people buy this car for leisure....
Yup, that's me, but because of that, I don't have to care where I'm going, the route I'm taking, nor the time I get there!
What I don't get is this preoccupation with finding the nearest gas station. I mean don't get me wrong, its not that I've never been desperately low on gas, but that's a very rare circumstance, not a regular one.
Yup, that's me, but because of that, I don't have to care where I'm going, the route I'm taking, nor the time I get there!
What I don't get is this preoccupation with finding the nearest gas station. I mean don't get me wrong, its not that I've never been desperately low on gas, but that's a very rare circumstance, not a regular one.
#38
Pole Position
I pretty much fit into the leisure category as well. In fact, my 4 year old LS430 never was more than 150 miles away from my home! Ever! We take my wife's (now) 5 year old Mountaineer (Explorer) when we do any longer trips. Truth be told I could easily get by with a car costing 1/3 for "around town" as I use my LS. I guess I questioned Helmar spending $120,000 (give or take) for the 600 yet someone driving a Corolla could make the same observation about me driving an LS460!
#39
>I mean don't get me wrong, its not that I've never been desperately low on
>gas, but that's a very rare circumstance, not a regular one.
I never fill up mid-tank. When the light comes up I use the nav to find the nearest major gas station and go there. When I travel the need comes up every time I need to fill the tank.
>gas, but that's a very rare circumstance, not a regular one.
I never fill up mid-tank. When the light comes up I use the nav to find the nearest major gas station and go there. When I travel the need comes up every time I need to fill the tank.
#40
Oh MM, my comment was directed at you. I've seen the reference to the "nearest gas station" several times in this forum. Like you I run my tank low (my wife panics if hers dips much below 3/4).
I've had the warning come on once on my LS and I still had at least 50 miles worth of gas left. Unless you're really in the boondocks, that will get you to a gas station easily, even without nav..
I've had the warning come on once on my LS and I still had at least 50 miles worth of gas left. Unless you're really in the boondocks, that will get you to a gas station easily, even without nav..
#41
Yes, I can find gas stations without the nav, I can parallel-park myself, I can listen to the music in my high-quality headphones and I can get caller ID from my phone screen. But if I do all that myself, why did I pay the extra 10K in additonal features and packages?
I've had cars with GPS and handheld GPS units for quite a while and I always used them the way I wanted. I don't appreciate limitations. Guess I am not the "Lexus kind of a driver"
#42
A friend of mine leased LS460 a week ago. He said he loves the car so far. There is no wind noise or other issues, but he only drove it for 500 miles. Non-ML sound is so-so.
The motion lock is something he would even pay a monthly fee to get rid of. Interesting idea When I said there is a hack that costs $299, he said that money is no object when it comes to personal freedom
The motion lock is something he would even pay a monthly fee to get rid of. Interesting idea When I said there is a hack that costs $299, he said that money is no object when it comes to personal freedom
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