avidude

I was about ready to pull the trigger on an 08 LS460, until, on a long test drive yesterday I realized that many of the nav features do not work while the car is moving. After grilling the salesperson, there are some phone and stereo features that is locked out too. This is absolutely crazy. No issues like this on my current E Class or the BMW 550i which is my second choice car.

I know this has been debated on this site already, but I'm wondering if anyone has found a work around for this??? I really don't care what is involved - a software hack or cutting the wire to the speed sensor or something.

Its unfortunate. Other than this issue, which is minor for some but major for me, the car is perfect. If I can't find someone who has found a solution and can document it for us, then I will move on to another car. Lexus - Please pay attention!

Can anyone out there help???

rominl

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someone claims they found a way (or their shop) to override it, but it has to "rest" every 30 secs or so, which i think is a bit silly coz' your screen freezes every now and then.

hopefully very soon there could be something nicer or better alternative coming out -- very soon....

encore888

Yeah there are some unofficial workarounds, but question is which features you want to have...

Luxofreak

I have a bunch of speed dials programmed and that solves the problem for me. This whole lockout thing is nothing compared to how good this car is. I really don't care.

Johnny

Lexus sells 3,000 of these puppies per month. I don't think they're going to alter their legal strategy for any "one". Compared to last year's sluggish sales for the previous gen, and compared to the current MB & BMW equivalents, Lexus' numbers are in the stratosphere. Yes, an aftermarket solution to work around this issue will come along if it hasn't already. I'm certainly not losing any sleep over it, as my driving is mostly in-town, and any occasional jaunts are served quite well with the status quo.

Nospinzone

Can anyone out there help???

Buy the LS. After a few days you'll learn to plan ahead for some functions you can't use while the car is in motion, and for those you can't ............. well the car so good, you won't even care!

rominl

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https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=313365

any reason not to get the car?

daryll40

Exactly. I agree with the above comment 110%

LexusLean

While there are many good things about the vehicle, including probably the smoothest and most powerful ride you can get, I, for one, never get over the trade-offs dealing with the lockouts.

Many don't care about not being able to look at and select from album and track lists, not being able to select from a list of points of interest, not being able to even dial the number of a selected point of interest while moving with one button push, even though it is directly tied into the protocol of the system.

It disturbs me everyday. So much so, I bought a Garmin Mobile 10 suite for my Treo, which sadly, is the only reasonable work-around, since there'll never be a Lexus released override.

I'm always surprised that so many don't care. I guess I'm a tech nut that loves the Acura/Honda system, but don't like the actual driving dynamics of those vehicles. If only we could retrofit the Honda/Acura cutting edge trust the consumer culture into the Toyota Motor Co. USA conservative nanny mindset...

daryll40

Actually, if it wasn't for the resale issue, I'd order a car without NAV altogether. I prefer my TomTom. And over the 3-4 years that I keep a car, the technology gallops along. But trying to sell a luxury car without NAV is sort of like trying to sell a car without air-conditioning...it severly limits the market and price fetched. Probably a loss greater than the savings upfront by not getting the option.

luxury1

The easiest workaround is using the voice feature. You can enter an address while moving using the voice fuction... "Say a command"!

I used to have the E (2004) and let me tell you that this car squashes it. The Nav alone is 10 times better.

Rocman

I get around it by not driving it. I let my wife deal with it.

When I do drive it, I never use the nav anyway. I know where I am going, and I never stop and ask for directions. Maybe that's why I am always late.

spnj

The lockouts are so annoying that I may trade the car in for an MB 550 or a 7 series. You are paying a premium for electronics that only work in the driveway. If you are technically saavy then you will hate this car as I do.

Rocman

Hate is a strong word. Perhaps you should rub your ears. Say it with me, woosaa, woosaa.

rominl

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well, seems like you didn't check out the car completely before you paid the big cash.

or you can just do the override